Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
I have really didn't make my mind if GTX580 is a real or fake next generation yet. Let me look at more in dept reviews, and I'll tell you tomorrow, OK?

But I can tell you today, those "thing" that AMD has chosen to call "new generation" looks worst than the "old generation", for sure.
I dont know what to tell you man I really dont know what kind of info youve been reading on cayman but it sure seems different than mine.

From this preliminary review by tpu what I see is a card from nvidia that can finally trade blows with the 5970 at 50$ less albeit higher power draw still.
Even if Cayman is late I dont think the gtx580 will do too much damage (of course its still an awesome product) to AMD sales as they could simply lower the price on 5970 and that would hold its own vs the 580 till a late Cayman arrives.

Still from the way AMD has been executing I do not think it will be late.
kudos for nvidia for pulling this card out of the hat, if its widely available thats quite impressive and a massive step foward from last year.