Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
I'm saying the numbers will be out tomorrow, and AMD better do something really fast, both for AMD fans like you (and him below) and for those nViida fans who want to get a good price on GTX580. You are not answering to my point. I never said nVidia did a good job in last round, so keep it to the point, please.
Your point was that ATI better do something fast to save face. My point was why are you being such a hypocrite by saying that when a) it's not Nov 22 yet (hence no delay) and b) nvidia took 6 months to do what you just described. Be a little fairer to yourself.

I don't have any cards, but can promise you that those "thing" that AMD has chosen to cal a "new generation" will look really bad tomorrow.
Considering the 68xx series are not meant to be compared to nvidia's new flagship, that is an ignorant statement indeed.

As for your "new generation" quotation nonsense, I think it's pretty clear that new generations do not need a process shrink, seeing as intel, amd/ati, and nvidia have done this before. Also, I hope you have the fairness to criticize nvidia when it renamed parts over 3 generations.