Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
Your point was that ATI better do something fast to save face. My point was why are you being such a hypocrite by saying that when a) it's not Nov 22 yet (hence no delay) and b) nvidia took 6 months to do what you just described. Be a little fairer to yourself.



Considering the 68xx series are not meant to be compared to nvidia's new flagship, that is an ignorant statement indeed.

As for your "new generation" quotation nonsense, I think it's pretty clear that new generations do not need a process shrink, seeing as intel, amd/ati, and nvidia have done this before. Also, I hope you have the fairness to criticize nvidia when it renamed parts over 3 generations.
If you want to discuss nVidia vs AMD from a football-match point of view, I'm not interested in any of that, both of them can bleed, I don't care.

Lets keep the discussion to relevant stuff, and about current cards. Just look at those numbers in the first review, and tell me, how those "thing" that AMD has chosen to call "new generation" looks like compared to GTX580? It will come more tomorrow too.

Don't you think AMD should do something about this and get Cayman out, and it better arrive in time, and it better deliver what they promise, because otherwise AMD will be in big trouble?.