Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

[Sam_oslo]

There is so much irony in your post its hard to talk one by one.
Lets get to one point though - tell us how the gtx580 is more next gen than AMDs "thing".

I have really didn't make my mind if GTX580 is a real or fake next generation yet. Let me look at more in dept reviews, and I'll tell you tomorrow, OK?

But I can tell you today, those "thing" that AMD has chosen to call "new generation" looks worst than the "old generation", for sure.