bulldozer has been in the works since before conroe came out, possibly much longer than that... so thats... 2005 or earlier... but what they originally planned as bulldozer is very very different from what they are going to actually release...
i remember reading an interview at anandtech with some higher up at amd about half a year before conroe came out, that their arch was good enough and that for the next few years they would only bump the clocks up and that would be enough... i had a very bad feeling about amd back then lol...




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