Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[Xello]

I got from here (link @ bottom of first post)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=201670

I think this latest version supports HT, but i'm not even OC'ing with HT enabled yet so i'll worry about that later.

Currently on 35/50 runs, 2 hours in. If this is a 100% way to prove stability then it's much quicker than prime, but i'm not sure if it is 100% with 50 runs. You can choose up to 1000 or more i think

I always done 24hr with prime, but with these set numbered runs i'm not sure what to choose.

Is this for e-peen? (I do understand if you're folding but come on)

Lol yeah i'm gonna stick "100 passes linpack" in my sig when finished

It's for peace of mind so that when i'm in the middle of a heated frag session with my crosshair on someone's head and about to get a sweet kill my computer doesn't go oh, sorry mate, i'd rather show you this blue screen instead.

If you can get that peace of mind with less testing, go ahead what does anyone else care

[ReverendMaynard]

I got from here (link @ bottom of first post)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=201670

I think this latest version supports HT, but i'm not even OC'ing with HT enabled yet so i'll worry about that later.

Currently on 35/50 runs, 2 hours in. If this is a 100% way to prove stability then it's much quicker than prime, but i'm not sure if it is 100% with 50 runs. You can choose up to 1000 or more i think

I always done 24hr with prime, but with these set numbered runs i'm not sure what to choose.



Lol yeah i'm gonna stick "100 passes linpack" in my sig when finished

It's for peace of mind so that when i'm in the middle of a heated frag session with my crosshair on someone's head and about to get a sweet kill my computer doesn't go oh, sorry mate, i'd rather show you this blue screen instead.

If you can get that peace of mind with less testing, go ahead what does anyone else care

40 hours of COD4, CODW@W, 2 TWL 5v5 matches and 2 pickup scrims and I run at the settings in my sig...not even a remote little stutter.

RvrndMynrd - CODW@W.

EDIT: I just noticed that you use a Lycosa keyboard....bought one last night and I hate it...but my G15 was completely worn out.

[rge]

I love linx because it tells me in half day, what prime used to tell me in days. I plotted out all my OC points, 4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 with and without LLC enabled in half a day using linx 10 runs near max mem (and either second linx running with small mem same time or prime running to get 100% load). Using linx all my OC points are usually within 0, 1, or sometimes 2 notches of prime stable 12+hrs. Though new version runs 100% 2 instances by itself, using half mem.

I will always run prime 12 hrs runs, as I never crash when prime stable, so just works for me. But linx is speed king to getting preliminaries done quickly. Cant imagine having to use prime for quick runs anymore.

[Xello]

40 hours of COD4, CODW@W, 2 TWL 5v5 matches and 2 pickup scrims and I run at the settings in my sig...not even a remote little stutter.

RvrndMynrd - CODW@W.

That's cool, did you ever try F4m? I got very measurable speed boosts, going from F4j.

I just dropped from 1.4v (what i needed for 4.2ghz stable on f4j with prime, 1 notch less was unstable) to 1.37v with linpack, and i'm currently on 15 passes. I read on another forum that 5 passes on linpack is enough to verify a small tweak, and 30-40 passes should be done for final settings. So either linpack is useless and i'm actually unstable, or this new bios has done the trick

I love linx because it tells me in half day, what prime used to tell me in days. I plotted out all my OC points, 4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 with and without LLC enabled in half a day using linx 10 runs near max mem (and either second linx running with small mem same time or prime running to get 100% load). Using linx all my OC points are usually within 0, 1, or sometimes 2 notches of prime stable 12+hrs. Though new version runs 100% 2 instances by itself, using half mem.

I will always run prime 12 hrs runs, as I never crash when prime stable, so just works for me. But linx is speed king to getting preliminaries done quickly. Cant imagine having to use prime for quick runs anymore.

Yeah i think i will use it this way too, have you ever been linx stable and failed prime blend?

[Splave]

I got from here (link @ bottom of first post)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=201670

I think this latest version supports HT, but i'm not even OC'ing with HT enabled yet so i'll worry about that later.

Currently on 35/50 runs, 2 hours in. If this is a 100% way to prove stability then it's much quicker than prime, but i'm not sure if it is 100% with 50 runs. You can choose up to 1000 or more i think

I always done 24hr with prime, but with these set numbered runs i'm not sure what to choose.



Lol yeah i'm gonna stick "100 passes linpack" in my sig when finished

It's for peace of mind so that when i'm in the middle of a heated frag session with my crosshair on someone's head and about to get a sweet kill my computer doesn't go oh, sorry mate, i'd rather show you this blue screen instead.

If you can get that peace of mind with less testing, go ahead what does anyone else care

to each his own

[rge]

That's cool, did you ever try F4m? I got very measurable speed boosts, going from F4j.

I just dropped from 1.4v (what i needed for 4.2ghz stable on f4j with prime, 1 notch less was unstable) to 1.37v with linpack, and i'm currently on 15 passes. I read on another forum that 5 passes on linpack is enough to verify a small tweak, and 30-40 passes should be done for final settings. So either linpack is useless and i'm actually unstable, or this new bios has done the trick



Yeah i think i will use it this way too, have you ever been linx stable and failed prime blend?

Depends, running 10 runs usually nets me within 0, 1, or 2 notches. Running 100 runs+, I havent yet, but problem is I use them both as I overclock, and almost always run linx beside prime for first hour, trying to crash prime early and reduce number of 8 hr prime reboots (and wasting time). So not the same as only using 1 at a time getting that stable then trying the other, that I cant completely attest to.

[vega22]

You're positive that the HDD is dead? Or does it show up as failed in the Intel Matrix boot screen? That has happened to me twice pushing the uncore to x17 but a cmos reset brought it back and has been fine ever since. Your problem looks like a trashed cpu, not motherboard.

1000+ linpack really necessary or were you trying to burn the cpu?

Yes, the hdd is dead. I tested this on another machine and neither works. No, I have not tested for pleasure 1000+ linpacks. Is the number that results from adding three-four hours to find the least stable Vcc, plus three-four hours to find the least stable IOH, etc. Linpack is very quick to find errors in Prime95 stability, but not as fast adjusting stability based on himself.

[vega22]

Your problem looks like a trashed cpu, not motherboard.

Yes, this worries me ... But a hard disk broken i wants to think that means problems at the board. Perhaps everything is broken ...

[ReverendMaynard]

Yes, the hdd is dead. I tested this on another machine and neither works. No, I have not tested for pleasure 1000+ linpacks. Is the number that results from adding three-four hours to find the least stable Vcc, plus three-four hours to find the least stable IOH, etc. Linpack is very quick to find errors in Prime95 stability, but not as fast adjusting stability based on himself.

The HDD was most likely a fluke. I've never seen a board kill an HDD unless there was a ground issue aka lightening strike.


Tightening up your uncore didn't kill your board/cpu/drive. Linpack put the nails in the coffin. I had one of my techs tell me that he wants to use linpack as a procedural test for replacement cpus. I told him to save the $ for every cpu that he runs it on so when it comes back failed, he can pay for it.

[vega22]

The HDD was most likely a fluke. I've never seen a board kill an HDD unless there was a ground issue aka lightening strike.


Tightening up your uncore didn't kill your board/cpu/drive. Linpack put the nails in the coffin. I had one of my techs tell me that he wants to use linpack as a procedural test for replacement cpus. I told him to save the $ for every cpu that he runs it on so when it comes back failed, he can pay for it.

We are betatesters of a very new technology. We do not know what can do every thing to another.
For now, and if anything, i try not to put the uncore @ x17/3.600 in my new board when full load.

[ReverendMaynard]

We are beta testers of a very new technology. We do not know what can do every thing to another.

No we aren't.

[icecold316]

How to properly flash the bios for Gigabyte???

Is it just copying the ex58ud5.f4r file on a USB drive and go into Bios and ask it to flash the BIOS with that file ?

Is there anything else to do, like loading the optimized default values to finish of loading the BIOS?

Thanks.

[ReverendMaynard]

How to properly flash the bios for Gigabyte???

Is it just copying the ex58ud5.f4r file on a USB drive and go into Bios and ask it to flash the BIOS with that file ?

Is there anything else to do, like loading the optimized default values to finish of loading the BIOS?

Thanks.

That is all you have to do

[jcool]

its no cheat, intels current linpack version (10.1) was only desigened for up to 4 cores.

Give them time to update the code to support more threads. In meanwhile just run two instances.

Sorry but you are entirely wrong...

a) the latest Linpack release officially supports Core i7 architecture
b) It only won't run 8 threads on an i7 rig depite the CPU being recognized and reported as capable of running 8 threads, guess why

As I am one of those WCG maniacs who own multiple Dual Harpertown systems (real Octacore systems) I can tell you linpack is very well capable of running 8 threads / on 8 cores - Intel just didn't want it to with i7 because all the "normal" people using stock coolers would probably degrade or kill their CPUs

If you use linpack on an i7, disable HT beforehand. It gives higher Gflop rating, faster runtimes and stresses the CPU more. Still, prime blend with HT on is currently the best option to stress i7.

[yenniedn]

Hey guys, just so you don't think I'm crazy or a noobie or whatever:

my replacement Extreme board's SATA ports are going bad just like the ones on my first Extreme board. I accepted that S3 resume problem. I figured how to work around the slow boot problem. But having my SATA drives not recognized on boot just doesn't fly. I called Giga Tech Support and they, again, were of no help. They even suggested that I get another board from another manufacturer.

I called MWave and, luckily, they are willing to take back BOTH defective boards without any restocking fees. They also told me that they've stopped selling the Extreme model - and if you check their website, you'll see that it has been pulled from their inventory. The service rep said that they've "discontinued" this model - though I means that they (MWave) stopped selling it because I still see it in stock and on sale at other places. Take that for what it's worth.

As for me, I'm hunting down an EVGA or Asus R2E board now.

[Tobit]

Showing out of stock at NewEgg. Interesting.

[Splave]

Hey guys, just so you don't think I'm crazy or a noobie or whatever:

my replacement Extreme board's SATA ports are going bad just like the ones on my first Extreme board. I accepted that S3 resume problem. I figured how to work around the slow boot problem. But having my SATA drives not recognized on boot just doesn't fly. I called Giga Tech Support and they, again, were of no help. They even suggested that I get another board from another manufacturer.

I called MWave and, luckily, they are willing to take back BOTH defective boards without any restocking fees. They also told me that they've stopped selling the Extreme model - and if you check their website, you'll see that it has been pulled from their inventory. The service rep said that they've "discontinued" this model - though I means that they (MWave) stopped selling it because I still see it in stock and on sale at other places. Take that for what it's worth.

As for me, I'm hunting down an EVGA or Asus R2E board now.

never had a problem here

[yenniedn]

Showing out of stock at NewEgg. Interesting.

Out of stock at NewEgg but still on their website - which means they still stock it or at least plan to.

MWave has removed the model from their website altogether. That's a whole different matter than just temporarily out of stock.

FYI:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearc...+x58&ALL=y&TP=

[lowdog]

Problem resolved.

New PSU TT 1500W Toughpower and the board is powering up without issue. Finally resolved and I can use the thing and move on.


Thanks fornowagain for suggestion to try a new PSU (something I overlooked because the TT 1200W Toughpower had been working fine on other systems), you were the only one to suggest a solution of relevance.

[Hornet331]

Sorry but you are entirely wrong...

a) the latest Linpack release officially supports Core i7 architecture
b) It only won't run 8 threads on an i7 rig depite the CPU being recognized and reported as capable of running 8 threads, guess why

As I am one of those WCG maniacs who own multiple Dual Harpertown systems (real Octacore systems) I can tell you linpack is very well capable of running 8 threads / on 8 cores - Intel just didn't want it to with i7 because all the "normal" people using stock coolers would probably degrade or kill their CPUs

If you use linpack on an i7, disable HT beforehand. It gives higher Gflop rating, faster runtimes and stresses the CPU more. Still, prime blend with HT on is currently the best option to stress i7.

maybe, i just noticed that they updated linpack for Ci7.

But linpack still stresses the cpu much more then prime.

30min prime blend:



30min linpack 2 instances:




system was preheated by runnning 9 houres of boinc.

Boinc (WCG/Seti) loads the cpu even less then prime blend.

[fornowagain]

Thanks fornowagain for suggestion to try a new PSU (something I overlooked because the TT 1200W Toughpower had been working fine on other systems), you were the only one to suggest a solution of relevance.

Glad you got there in the end mate.

[jcool]

But linpack still stresses the cpu much more then prime.

Ok, didn't know you could run 2 instances - your point
Still it kind of sucks the stupid routine won't just run 8 threads in 1 app

Boinc (WCG/Seti) loads the cpu even less then prime blend.

Uhm.. have a look at my boinc/WCG stats and you'll know why that info was superfluous

[safan80]

I love linx because it tells me in half day, what prime used to tell me in days. I plotted out all my OC points, 4, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 with and without LLC enabled in half a day using linx 10 runs near max mem (and either second linx running with small mem same time or prime running to get 100% load). Using linx all my OC points are usually within 0, 1, or sometimes 2 notches of prime stable 12+hrs. Though new version runs 100% 2 instances by itself, using half mem.

I will always run prime 12 hrs runs, as I never crash when prime stable, so just works for me. But linx is speed king to getting preliminaries done quickly. Cant imagine having to use prime for quick runs anymore.

yeah i had been getting sick of prime it would only test 32% ( when ETQW would use 40-60% depending on if I used a ramdrive) of my memory and linpack via LinX tests 93% of my memory.you should adjust the memory setting in LinX you can make it use 90+% of your memory.

[vega22]

What settings you prefer?:
CPU clock drive -800mV
PCI-E clock drive -900mV

or

CPU clock drive -700mV
PCI-E clock drive -700mV

The default in all the F4s is 700/700, but load optimal or safe defaults after flashing turns this into 800/900. I always flash->load optimal->clear cmos, so I always use 700/700, but i have not compared between the two settings stability and performance.

[Hornet331]

800/900 is default, so i would leave it at 800/900.

Ok, didn't know you could run 2 instances - your point
Still it kind of sucks the stupid routine won't just run 8 threads in 1 app

Dualist added a HT option in linx (gui for linpack), it start 2 instances and you dont need to open linx 2 times.