The GT300/Fermi Thread

[saaya]

perhaps thinking too far ahead is why the arch performed poorly.

perhaps? of course it is!

The reason I said R600 was a pretty scalable design is based on how it's progressed

hmmm well i so far saw it as ati doing a bad job at creating r600 and doing a great job at fixing r600

Wow, a devastating article on Fudzilla about Fermi! I thought I would never see the day... (he was really insisting on a Dec 2009 paper launch for a while)

well he insisted on the nov launch, then he insisted on a december launch... i guess he got tired of people mocking him and is now spanking nvidia for playing games with him

this was such a typical nvidia pr move, and this is so exactly why no press in the world likes and trusts nvidia heh... i wonder if they will ever change

the Q3 part (aka the Daddy), is going to be competitive with the HD5970.

well it better be considering it comes out almost a year after 5970 :P

nVidia have hit the proverbial nail on the head with this one, think of it as more of a G80 than a FX.

huh? G80 stomped ati into the ground and offered a huge performance boost over the previous generation... fermi is already late, will come out even later, will not stomp ati, and will not offer a huge performance boost... i dont see any corelations :P

Whether or not the card is a success, you have to hand it to nVIDIA.
This card has caused the most drama in the history of computing, i'm also very impressed with the secrecy surrounding this graphics card.
This really is some grade A marketing.

rofl, what? are you serious? bsing the investors, end users, press, holding up DIY prototypes claiming they are the real deal, and not releasing any information whatsoever is good marketing?

Personally, i have to buy it as my 280 GTX is blowing up and i refuse to go ATI as i had a X800XT P.E on pre-order for 8 months, then being told it's discontinued..

what does the 800xt pe have to do with this? it was a slightly overclocked version of a card that was available everywhere... that was some terrible attempt at marketing as well, although im not even sure that was intentional... and i dont get why so many people complained about the availability of the 800xtpe and the 850xtpe... i wanted an 850xtpe and bought not only one but two... all while several websites claimed it wasnt available anywhere and impossible to get

Oh, it's not just that single excuse, i was a very loyal/happy ATI customer since radeon 7000.
But after a POS 9800, two overheating 9800XT's, my non-existant X800XT P.E and changing the control panel to that God awful catalyst control center.
I lost the faith and love.
Don't get me wrong, i have a hd4670 in a HTPC and its brilliant at doing that, but it would take a lot for me to consider them for performance related needs again.

If this GF100 is the equivalent to two 280 GTX's in SLI i'll be more than happy with that.

yes... i HATE CCC... god i hate it so much...
but just when i was about to give nvidia another try, they switched to a browser style driver interface...
sigh... i dont see why its so hard to NOT SCREW UP A WELL WORKING DRIVER INTERFACE...
i can see why many companies struggle to create one, but having one and screwing it up... amazing work there nvidia and ati

What's up with the weird contradictions, one source says Fermi is going to be superfast, and the next says it's only like 20% faster then the 5870.

I wish we could be done with it already, it's getting on my nerves.

i think they all have the same infos, its just that some consider faster than 5870 SUPERFAST and others dont

Amazing gaming performance? Even a GTX 260 has pretty much amazing gaming performance except Crysis. You can play pretty much any game at any resolution you want. Except Crysis. BTW; when discussing game performances the two words "Except Crysis" are used so much that I propose one of the following against time wasting:

1. Use a short hand notation. E.C. should do fine.
2. Don't count Crysis as a game.

totally agree!
i got 2 260s in sli and i gotta say...i keep wondering why i have a second 260 in the rig
sure, it helps to keep the fps steady above 60 in far cry2 in 1920x1080 with max eye candy... but i dont feel a difference... the only difference i feel are the weird sli bugs and stuttering and flickering every now and then... which i didnt have with two G92s in sli btw!

so yeah, the real question right now is... do we really need a faster gpu right now? if nvidia or ati would ask me what i want, id say:
get me G92/rv770 performance at below 20W, or G200/rv770 performance at 99$