Anyone seen this XSPC Typhoon like 5.25 res?

[DarthBeavis]

New I could count on you to comment since your in the guy's pockets .......

I consider Geno and I to be friends. No pockets involved. Beyond that, my relationship to this particular product line is . . . .complicated. Let's just just say if I did not absolutely have total respect for Geno and his designs I would not be behind this.

[Bond Number]

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

If you had a divider the temperature of the two loops would not equalize (As long as both loops are running). They are not in equilibrium, they would be at steady state. If the divider was acrylic (k=0 .2 W/m*K) you would have a heat transfer rate on the order of 1 watt per degree Kelvin ( I assumed 2 mm thickness and an area 200mm X 50mm). So if the temperature difference between the two reservoirs was 10 degrees you would only be transferring only 10 watts. You most likely would not even notice this difference because the loop residence time is so small.

[Helfarch]

A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other

maybe actually look at the res.

[LOUISSSSS]

yea i guess you won't be able to do dual pumps in a series with this reservoir. one pump will just be pumping into the other pump

[Helfarch]

yea i guess you won't be able to do dual pumps in a series with this reservoir. one pump will just be pumping into the other pump

both inlets are inside the res, it's effectively a double pump top.

[Waterlogged]

yea i guess you won't be able to do dual pumps in a series with this reservoir. one pump will just be pumping into the other pump

Well, actually you could, if you didn't mind losing a bit (most?) of the pressure you would normally gain from dual pumps by it being dumped back into the res. I'm sure there would be "some" boost, just not sure it would really be worth the trouble and expense. That's the "pointless" part of my last post.

[Mech0z]

Well, actually you could, if you didn't mind losing a bit (most?) of the pressure you would normally gain from dual pumps by it being dumped back into the res. I'm sure there would be "some" boost, just not sure it would really be worth the trouble and expense. That's the "pointless" part of my last post.

Cant you just take some Y-Split and then feed both inlets from one Y plug and gather the water from both outlets from another Y plug?

I am just wondering if I got this with a laing ddc 10w (3.1, MCW350) would that be about the same noise as a MCW655-B (Setting 4)

[Waterlogged]

Cant you just take some Y-Split and then feed both inlets from one Y plug and gather the water from both outlets from another Y plug?

That's a parallel setup.

[Mech0z]

That's a parallel setup.

Ahh right, but how would you rate the DDC3.1 vs D5 @ setting 4 ? I cant find any good spots to mount the D5 where it would hidden and not be in the way at some point in my V2110B.

The rad will be in the bottem compartment, and I was thinking Res -> pump -> rad -> cpu -> gpu

dont mind the cables, I havent done any cable management yet, will do when I get my cables sleeved later on.

[Waterlogged]

Ahh right, but how would you rate the DDC3.1 vs D5 @ setting 4 ? I cant find any good spots to mount the D5 where it would hidden and not be in the way at some point in my V2110B.

The rad will be in the bottem compartment, and I was thinking Res -> pump -> rad -> cpu -> gpu

dont mind the cables, I havent done any cable management yet, will do when I get my cables sleeved later on.

Well, having never owned a D5, I can't really say. Going by Martin's and Laing's data, with the stock tops...numerically, it looks as though the D5@4 is a better pump.

[justin150]

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

Well it will not give you max performance for two reasons:

1. As the man says, with a single reservoir the temperature evens out across both loops.

2. Pressure loss: this is just not as efficient as having pumps in series so if the order was res->pump1 -> blocks -> rad1 ->pump2 -> blocks -> rad2 -> res that works much better than having twin pumps running off a system where technically you have dual loops each running res->pump->blocks -> rad ->res. I know I have tried it

But if you are not looking to build an overclocking monster but something that is a it stylish, quiet and easy to maintain this looks good.

I have some concerns about vibration. I would much prefer that the pump mounting point had some anti-vibration material around them (petras gel or just some thick rubber would do).

In a lot of cases having the fill port on top is a pain because you have to slide the res out a little to get access which makes the build a little messy

Overall a nice idea but could be improved

[Snyxxx]

A piece of tubing connecting the "out" of one to the "in" of the other

The problem is the inlet for the other pump does not connect directly to the pump volute. The inlet from the reservoir sort of pushes close to the inlet of the pump, but not actually connected. This is more like a waterfall than a direct connect.

If you look at the picture long enough, I think the inlet tube has a gap at the inlet of the pump.

You will not get the pressure benefit of a series setup.

[Mech0z]

So if they could make a version where the pump to the most left is left as it is now, but at the other pump the inlet is connected directly to the pump therefore making it serial connected.

Anyway as this product seems to be on the market already, I hope we hear some news on how well vibration is handled very soon.

[exemay]

hmmm this looks pretty amazing, would solve the problem as to positioning pumps in my case.....any 1 got pictures of it with pumps in?>?

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I like this design, but it seems to be a PITA to fill without drilling a hole on the top of my case. It would also take up 3 drive bays. This is clearly meant for a large case, at least 4 slots if you want an odd and 5+ if you need fan controller(s).

Nice, but I'll pass.

[exemay]

does this come with the prefomance top in it?

[WatZp]

The problem is the inlet for the other pump does not connect directly to the pump volute. The inlet from the reservoir sort of pushes close to the inlet of the pump, but not actually connected. This is more like a waterfall than a direct connect.

I agreed with you. I think we will lose pressure into res if we connect the pump directly.

[bluehaze]

This looks like it would be hell with microbubbles. The inlets are so close to the pumps that the bubbles will just get sucked back in the loop and continue to recirculate without a chance to get out.

[naokaji]

Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner. This is the problem with this reservoir. It is not setup for dual loops. Even if it did have a divider, the two water temps would equalize through heat transfer and void the purpose of dual loops.

I say this is not a good top. No good for series, no good for dual loops.

Depends, if you have one loop running at its limits you could use it to offload some of the heat to the second loop.

[RCG_Bex]

I should have this pretty soon - will try and get some photos of it with pumps (but I have no case to put it in for now)

~Bex

[XS_RoB]

I should have this pretty soon - will try and get some photos of it with pumps (but I have no case to put it in for now)

~Bex

If you could post if it has a block/plug so that if you only want to use one pump as well that would be great!

I was thinking though - if it doesn't come with a plug - we could buy a spare Feser DDC O-ring then simply cut a piece of Acrylic, ABS, or similar to plug ourselves.

I cant wait to see it in action.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

They need someone to take better photos of their products.... those pictures are crap...

product looks like a really top notch idea though. .

one thing I would be concerned with is attaching two pumps running at two slightly different RPMs to the same top (a result of different restrictivity in loops). I know some of you have had wave physics but I think there is some concern about the beats caused by the frequency interactions of the vibrations - certainly they are not good for the durability of the material. It happens to the pumps in my system when the feet touch.

[Snyxxx]

Depends, if you have one loop running at its limits you could use it to offload some of the heat to the second loop.

Interesting point, but then why not just make one loop with the pumps in series. Seems the same result.

[Mech0z]

If you could post if it has a block/plug so that if you only want to use one pump as well that would be great!

I was thinking though - if it doesn't come with a plug - we could buy a spare Feser DDC O-ring then simply cut a piece of Acrylic, ABS, or similar to plug ourselves.

I cant wait to see it in action.

Supplied with screws, blanking plugs and blue LED.

Says so on the product page

[Waterlogged]

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I have some concerns about vibration. I would much prefer that the pump mounting point had some anti-vibration material around them (petras gel or just some thick rubber would do).
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It appears to have vibration control built in via the o-rings around the bay mounting holes.