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    It just means that I feel that it is not really reasonable... but very tempting at the same time

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    Thanks for the comments Guys.


    Quote Originally Posted by Markicks View Post
    lol I was to focussed on what you're going to do that I didn't think of that solution. Anyways, me likes internal more.
    I agree, internal is hella more convenient but it's just not going to work into this design. My hope is that the result will be worth the inconvenience.


    Quote Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB View Post
    Another question: you sleeved all the wires from ATX/PCIe etc. with 1/4" Techflex?? which of their products did you use? I think it's the "Flexo PET"??

    Thanks for your help again man!!
    Yes, I used the 1/4" Flexo PET on FC's build. As dualbrain say's, there's a superior product available which I assume he's told you how to get. This is his discovery so I'm not going to comment further.



    Quote Originally Posted by dualbrain View Post
    Hey Charles: Can I tell GrossmeisterB about the secret sleeve that we use for our murder-builts in Germany ...
    No.



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    Sorry Charles But he asked
    No worries!

    Something tells me you have a few new PMs.



    Quote Originally Posted by Exso View Post
    Definitely basing my next build off of the murderbox. Will the murdermod be a complete cases, or individual mods that one can purchase for use in their builds, or will it be possible to do either? I ordered my TJ07 3 days before this thread appeared. I am beginning to think I should have waited.
    As FC said; murderMod will be available as a complete modded TJ07 or you can choose the parts you like and use your own case.



    Quote Originally Posted by -Gab View Post
    It just means that I feel that it is not really reasonable... but very tempting at the same time
    Reason has never resulted in anything exciting for me while temptation, well, that's a different story.

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    Really nice man, as soon as i get enough cash for my water calling build, I can look up to this as I have a TJ07 =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles_h View Post
    Reason has never resulted in anything exciting for me while temptation, well, that's a different story.
    That's right

    Well, I have two more questions.

    I read the thread again but could not find anything about the precise kind of tape you used to attach the window. Have I missed anything, and if not, would you share this secret with us?

    I have the same question concerning the stuff you used to remove the Silverstone logo, have you asked your friend if it was available as a consumer product?
    Last edited by -Gab; 07-13-2008 at 02:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles_h View Post


    Yes, I used the 1/4" Flexo PET on FC's build. As dualbrain say's, there's a superior product available which I assume he's told you how to get. This is his discovery so I'm not going to comment further.
    Yeah, he told me about that "special" thing, but it was too late, I allready orderes the Flexo PET, so I think I will just use that, as it's not that bad looking...
    Thanks for all your help guys! I can't wait for all the stuff to arrive so I can start building!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB View Post
    Yeah, he told me about that "special" thing, but it was too late, I allready orderes the Flexo PET, so I think I will just use that, as it's not that bad looking...
    Thanks for all your help guys! I can't wait for all the stuff to arrive so I can start building!!
    Here in the Netherlands we are allowed to send the package back within 7 days after the sale, without having any reasons. There must be some kind of rule in German too, isn't there?

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    Yes, but we have 14 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steffen View Post
    Yes, but we have 14 days
    Yes, but not for things that were cut in length extra for me, and those 200m-package was a BIT too expensive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB View Post
    Yes, but not for things that were cut in length extra for me, and those 200m-package was a BIT too expensive...
    lol, better ignore my reply then, hehe!

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    Charles i'm interested on what way you setup airflow direction in the bottom section of fc's rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markicks View Post
    lol, better ignore my reply then, hehe!
    Yeah, I allready phones the german Techflex-people, they were very helpful, and he said that normally this ain't a problem, but my order was cut allready and packaged, so no way to send it back...but I think if Charles used Flexo PET as well, it can't be THAT bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Gab View Post
    That's right

    Well, I have two more questions.

    I read the thread again but could not find anything about the precise kind of tape you used to attach the window. Have I missed anything, and if not, would you share this secret with us?

    I have the same question concerning the stuff you used to remove the Silverstone logo, have you asked your friend if it was available as a consumer product?
    For the window adhesive, there are lots of products that do the job nicely. 3M make a variety of thin, two sided tape that stick like sh|t to a blanket.

    As for the logo removal; I forgot that I only responded to Evil by PM regarding that. I asked my dude and he didn't tell me if its avaiable as a consumer product, but he did tell me that the active component is HIGHLY hazardous to not only your health, but the health of your future offspring. Needless to say, I was horrified. The bottom line is that I'm actively looking for a solution that is a lot less toxic. Removing Silverstone logos isn't worth dying for - or producing children with gills.


    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    Charles i'm interested on what way you setup airflow direction in the bottom section of fc's rig.
    The air comes in through the side with the PA120.3 (right side) assisted by two fans attached to the inside of the rad - pulling. An inch or so away is the PA120.2 which has two fans on the outside (left side) - pulling through the rad and out. What FC chooses to do with the warm air at this point is up to him.


    Quote Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB View Post
    Yeah, I allready phones the german Techflex-people, they were very helpful, and he said that normally this ain't a problem, but my order was cut allready and packaged, so no way to send it back...but I think if Charles used Flexo PET as well, it can't be THAT bad...
    w3rd.

    You'll be fine with the Flexo PET.

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    Anyone know if Silverstone sells replacement parts for the tj07 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles_h View Post
    w3rd.

    You'll be fine with the Flexo PET.
    Yeah, I really can't wait to get started!! Still waiting for a lot of parts though...but I think I will post a thread about my build here!!
    :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkatom View Post
    Anyone know if Silverstone sells replacement parts for the tj07 ?
    The german support sells every part if you need it.
    So i think the american or anything else support should do it as well.

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    Hey Steffen - you need to add some green details to your darth vader avatar

    Charles' toxic green stuff: Good that we did not plan to produce kids ... good for them

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    I received my Techflex today, it looks real nice, can't wait to start building!!
    But I'm still waiting for a lot of parts, and I gotta find some nice paint!! I don't wanna have it powdercoated, as I'll have to paint some plastic parts, too, and I'm afraid of not getting the same "color"...

    Should I use my airbrush-pistol for painting?? I'm a bit unsure, haven't worked with that thing for ages...

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    amazing work man.. and craftsmanshipp..

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    You have a French admirer

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    Vive la France

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    Er... another question here!

    I was wondering whether the front USB header shown here:



    ... could be replaced by any 3/5" unit, like this one: http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...ack::7110.html ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dualbrain View Post
    Vive la France
    Actually, there seems to be a few Murderbox admirers here in France... oh, and of MDPC too
    Last edited by -Gab; 07-15-2008 at 04:18 PM.

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    Hey Charles if your still around i think you should look at this:

    I was busy drooling at your wallpapers of this lovely build when i noticed something out of the ordinary.
    The inlet and outlet of the Fusion are backwards. If i'm not mistaken, the loop order is res > pump > rad > CPU > GPU > GPU > res ?

    If that's the case then your pumping liquid into the outlet of the CPU block, which shouldn't be encouraged. The other option is that the loop goes GPU > GPU > CPU > pump > rad > res > GPU ..., but i don't think you'd make the mistake of trying to pump through the res backwards!?

    If i'm missing something don't hesitate to ease my mind!

    Here's a relevant pic:
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Gab View Post
    Er... another question here!

    I was wondering whether the front USB header shown here:

    ... could be replaced by any 3/5" unit, like this one: http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...ack::7110.html ?
    i dont see why not, there are a few sets of screw holes on the divider of the case that the stock header case mounts to
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    Thanks for the comments Guys.


    Quote Originally Posted by Darkatom View Post
    Anyone know if Silverstone sells replacement parts for the tj07 ?
    Not that I'm aware of but I've only inquired about side panels. The side panels are all slightly unique - sometimes a set will fit more than one case, sometimes not. Something to do with the case "U" design i reckon.



    Quote Originally Posted by GrossmeisterB View Post
    I received my Techflex today, it looks real nice, can't wait to start building!!
    But I'm still waiting for a lot of parts, and I gotta find some nice paint!! I don't wanna have it powdercoated, as I'll have to paint some plastic parts, too, and I'm afraid of not getting the same "color"...

    Should I use my airbrush-pistol for painting?? I'm a bit unsure, haven't worked with that thing for ages...
    Good stuff Bro, looking forward to your work log.

    I don't know what to say about airbrushing since I don't do it. I'm a huge fan of powder coating as you can imagine. If you paint the plastic parts 1st you can then take them to a powder coater for reference and they can most likely match them pretty closely.



    Quote Originally Posted by -Gab View Post
    Er... another question here!

    I was wondering whether the front USB header shown here:



    ... could be replaced by any 3/5" unit, like this one: http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...ack::7110.html ?


    Actually, there seems to be a few Murderbox admirers here in France... oh, and of MDPC too
    I'd first like to say that France is at the top of my list for places I plan to visit before I kick the bucket.

    As Dragon says, that unit fits no problem.



    Quote Originally Posted by twwen2 View Post
    Hey Charles if your still around i think you should look at this:

    I was busy drooling at your wallpapers of this lovely build when i noticed something out of the ordinary.
    The inlet and outlet of the Fusion are backwards. If i'm not mistaken, the loop order is res > pump > rad > CPU > GPU > GPU > res ?

    If that's the case then your pumping liquid into the outlet of the CPU block, which shouldn't be encouraged. The other option is that the loop goes GPU > GPU > CPU > pump > rad > res > GPU ..., but i don't think you'd make the mistake of trying to pump through the res backwards!?

    If i'm missing something don't hesitate to ease my mind!

    Here's a relevant pic:
    I'm still around.

    The loop is: pump > cpu > gpu1 > gpu2 > res > rad1 > rad2 > pump

    The reason I chose to reverse the in/outs of the Fuzion was to keep the hoses from crossing each other as they entered/exited the block. As we all know, the barbs on the Fuzion are so freakin' close together, its a challenge to get clamps of any kind on. Now try to imagine sleeving and heat shrink as well... When I attempted to go into the "in" fitting, the hoses were practically on top of each other - especially when then going up to the 1st gpu. Because of the "U" elbows I needed coming off the top gpu, I wanted to come off the right barb which meant going into the right barb of the 1st gpu. The problem is that the Fuzion "in" barb is in the center of the block while the "out" is off to the side and I couldn't get the thing to work without having the two hoses cross each other - which looked crappy. I tried a number of variations and the solution I was happy with was what you see now. It's my understanding that the major reason for going in through the "in" barb is related to air and bleeding. This wasn't a problem at all. This build was actually one of the easier to bleed of all the machines I've built.

    I hope that answers your question Bro. I think I've probably done a horrible job of explaining myself but I'm tired and my brain has gone lumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles_h View Post
    It's my understanding that the major reason for going in through the "in" barb is related to air and bleeding.
    Ture, that's part of it. But an even greater reason is that the central inlet is positioned in the center of the block (duh!), which is right over the core under the IHS. By using the normal inlet the water is directed straight at the core, giving the best heat absorbtion. I don't know how much of a temp difference we're talking, i'm not sure it has been tested, but i know the theory is right.

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