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    I have read through this thread about five times now and am still having a little bit of difficulty. If anyone has managed to succefully get a decent overclock using a Wolfdale CPU then please could they post me the settings they are using. I using two 1gb sticks of OCZ 1800MHZ DDR3.

    When I first got the board about a week and a half ago I managed to get the memory running at 1800mhz with the CPU running at about 3.8ghz. It would crash after about five minutes but I quickly discovered that one of the pins on the CPU cooler wasn't quite in all the way so just assumed it was overheating.

    I have only just managed to get back to using the board today, having come back from the Isle of Wight festival and plumbing the board into a watercooled rig (CPU and Northbridge are being cooled.) It seems that I can't get a stable overclock at anything other than stock settings, for some bizzarre reason I can't downclock the memory. I can get the CPU to 4ghz and the memory to 2000mhz but after 10 seconds to five minutes in windows the system reboots. Prime 95 fails almost immediately but doesn't always cause the system to reboot straight away. This is the first 'proper high end,' motherboard I have ever owned, and while I have had extensive experience overclocking it has mainly been with Asus motherboards so I am a little bit lost with this board to say the least. I have tried the P02, P04 and G22 Bios's and the P04 seems to be the most stable that I have used so far.

    If anyone has used a wolfdale (especially an E8400 with some OCZ,) then their overclocking settings would be like stone tablets handed down from heaven so that I can peruse them and tweak them for my own machine (I realise that not everyone's settings will be suitable.)

    Cheers in advance for any help and suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashin View Post
    I have a major problem guys. I have been reading through this thread for several weeks and just tring to solve my problems myself with the advice that is given in this thread by various people BUT i have come to my limits here. I had OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 ram with this Blackops BUT after reading through this thread i purchased the CellShock 1866 ram with the Blue heatsink!!
    I have quad core 9650 and i have the P04 bios. with this bios i was able to boot with Anandtech memory settings at 1600 (400fsb) and multi 10 for 4.0Ghz. I nstalled my ativirus software and all was well for a while then i started having intermittent periods where the system would just not respond in Windows Vista 32bit....i would have to wait several minutes after even clicking on the start button!! I thought it was the antivirus software so i tried to uninstall it BUT the system kept hanging...so i decided to reinstall WIndows Vista Ultimate Edition to start fresh. Now when i try to reinstall windows the whole thing just hangs during the initial setup screen.all this at default 3.0 setting with my Cellshock at 1333 or 1066....1600 is just out of the question.
    I would just like to install windows with my quad core and cellshock at stock first then slowly crank up the system to 4.0. I am watercooling the processor at present. Anyone in this forum with quadcore 9650 and cellshock with this mobo ...please give some advice on how to get this machine of mine booting with vista installed. Thanks again
    I would suggest you leave the CPU at stock settings [3.0Ghz @ 333FSB], dial in your RAM at 7-7-7-15 1.81v and leave everything else at auto. Set the RAM divider to 1:4 333 and make sure the + 0.5 multiplier is disabled. Try installing Windows again and let us know what develops.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_redfield View Post
    I have read through this thread about five times now and am still having a little bit of difficulty. If anyone has managed to succefully get a decent overclock using a Wolfdale CPU then please could they post me the settings they are using. I using two 1gb sticks of OCZ 1800MHZ DDR3.

    When I first got the board about a week and a half ago I managed to get the memory running at 1800mhz with the CPU running at about 3.8ghz. It would crash after about five minutes but I quickly discovered that one of the pins on the CPU cooler wasn't quite in all the way so just assumed it was overheating.
    The fact that you even got the OCZ DDR3-1800 to but at rated speeds, demands that I give you a few . I was unable to boot that RAM passed 1333Mhz on my BlackOps. I suggest you download and flash your board with the G27 BIOS and see what you can do about it. If you happen to get it to work with the RAM running at 1800Mhz please POST your setting as a lot of people here are interested on those.

    I noticed that you asked for a few pointers on the settings of an E8400 while using this RAM, well I have some experience with the RAM, but on an ASUS P5E3 Premium; the only time I got it to boot at 1800Mhz was with 8-8-8-27-2T-2.01v. As for the E8400, I own an E8500 and the settings are quite similar if you ask me, so please elaborate a bit more on the speed you will be persuing, specially the multiplier you would like to use; providing your CPU's VID will also help greatly [use Real Temp or Core Temp to obtain the VID, it is on the first window of Core Temp, and you can find it on the "Settings" window of Real Temp].


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    Not bad for a single GPU, with every component on air (3dmark06):




    Its strange I updated to the the new G27 Foxconn Blackops BETA BIOS and all my scores went up dramatically.

    Did you guys put some magic in that G27 BIOS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    Not bad for a single GPU, with every component on air:




    Its strange I updated to the the new G27 Foxconn Blackops BETA BIOS and all my scores went up dramatically.

    Did you guys put some magic in that G27 BIOS?
    I gather you finally got over that hump of not being able to run your RAM at rated speed?


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    Quick question, I'm currently using the G27 BIOS, and the Aegis panel is alarming the hell out of me. I have set the CPU, PLL and VTT voltages to a certain value in the BIOS and the Aegis panel reports extremely higher values, like so:

    vCore: 1.30v [BIOS] 1.35v [AP]
    VTT: 1.35v [BIOS] 1.425v [AP]
    PLL: 1.54v [BIOS] 1.92v [AP]

    The PPL and VTT values reported are extremely dangerous, what is going on?

    I can't wait for morning time, I'm going to overclock my @$$ and run it down to Radio Shack [local "tech" shop] and get a multimeter.
    Last edited by Telo; 06-21-2008 at 09:28 PM.


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    I like many in this thread have had initial problems setting up this BlackOps board for overclocking, after my many attempts I found this thread and setup as per Cpt planets settings, and yes they do work, for me.

    Currently up to 455fsb benchable 460fsb is just too much at moment. I am water cooling cpu and nb, will be going to single stage and Dice when I find a few more settings.

    CptPlanet, for those who are following your guide settings, could I request you advise on the glt settings for the cpu dims and nb as this is my next issue.

    I also have issues with the Aegis panel not showing temps and the issue of lockup when entering the usb device settings in bios, but the guys at foxconn are sorting these so awaiting their updated bios and program.

    Lastly a big thank you to Cpt Planet for sharing his settings


    Pic of wmprimes, with the error of server 2008 / vista not using correct multiplier, at 4.2Ghz in xp wmprime32 is around 8.89sec


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    Quote Originally Posted by spikerules View Post
    I am unwilling to reduce my memory size just to get this board working at default voltages and speeds... surely you understand this?
    actually no, to find out what exactly the problem is it would help a lot if you would use only 2 sticks first and then try to get them working right, and then add in the other 2 sticks. i saw tony convinced you to try 2 sticks first and it seems to work at stock speed now?

    tinus, i know... i never said there wont be any corrosion, but knowing so much about it, you must know that corrosion always happens, even if you only use copper there will be corrosion, but from what ive heard and experienced myself, its so few it really isnt that big a deal unless you use the loop for 5 years or more, and even then its unlikely it will corrode so much that itll leak.

    Quote Originally Posted by gmcg View Post
    Use delrin, it should be close in cost to anodized aluminum and everyone will be happy
    nice, thanks for the headsup!
    ill check if i can find somebody who can supply us with it...

    Quote Originally Posted by gmcg View Post
    LOL, you can't imagine how many links I have provided to sayaa in our PM conversation regarding galvanic corrosion, even scientific publications ... but he needs a scientific experiment to confirm corrosion's speed in the current environment
    "Sooner or later" can be months, years or centuries Just use a corrosion inhibitor, and it should be fine for a lifetime of the motherboard, I assume.
    heheheh yes
    basically, even if you use copper only, you should use an additive to slow down corrosion, it should keep the water clear and nice to look at and the mixes usually kill off bacteria and algae as well and prevent a minature cycle of evolution to form in your watercooling loop ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by systemviper View Post
    HI, I sent my Blackops Northbridge Tub/waterblock TOP to IANDH
    He is going to make me a few acrylic tops for my system, I would do it
    even if it was copper since i LIKE mine to be Clear because i like UV liquids,

    He has started a thread to find out the amount of interest, So anyone interested in
    Galvanic cor, or just want a clear or coppertop should give him a shout in the link....

    Go IANDH And foxconn, i have high hopes for that Blackopps
    crossfire 4870's

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=191482

    I will be starting my blackops build in a few weeks, i hope that things have matured by then.....
    When will the Dreadknought and the Destroyer be for sale in the USA? Any Ideas?
    thanks for the headsup!
    we didnt go for acryllic tops since machining them would cost too much iirc, but its kinda weird... i wouldnt expect cnc prices in asia to be high at all....
    we will continue to work on that and will try to get other tops

    Quote Originally Posted by MotF Bane View Post
    Where are the voltage measure points on the board, such as for VDIMM? I can't find any results by searching the forums.
    hmmmm let me check and get back to you, if i forget to pm you send me a pm as a reminder, thx

    Quote Originally Posted by StellaNor View Post
    As a bencher myself I agree with you and at current state it performs very well on the extreme side. From the side of a author and editor I would have to disagree, since I see the Blackops not just for enthusiast. Somewhere inbetween enthusiast and mainstream there sure is many people interested into it aswell. You cannot expect them to read the extreme forums to receive advice on howto setup FSB and memory clocks to get their RAM working. They just believe what they read in reviews and if they read that 3 out of 4 different memory kits are not working like they should...I will ask Foxconn Germany to let me have the media sample for at least 1 or 2 weeks more to write objectively correct. A german speaking is "Gut Ding braucht Weile" which means something like "Rome wasnt build in one day"
    yeah... the difficult thing is finding the balance of spending all your resources on making it a plug and play board so even our wifes/girlfriends could configure it and actually adding nice new features like clock dll and gtl options which are not easy to master, but are a big part of what ultimately differentiates this board from a normal mainstream board...

    sure we could make it a plug and play board anybody can configure within a few minutes, but then who would be willing to spend so much money on it if it doesnt have all the advanced options in bios?

    Quote Originally Posted by StellaNor View Post
    1:4 strap 400 and auto seems to work with memory which is able to run at 1T - at least thats my experiance.
    hmmmm so 1:4 400 defaulting to 2t should get the strap working fine then?
    its really weird that you have several kits that cant run 1t though...
    from my experience its very seldom that a kit cant run 1t.... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by StellaNor View Post
    I wish I knew it. For me it looks like 2t-RAM does not perform really well with the Blackops yet, at least none of the mentioned memory modules (3 out of 4 kits) doing really well and stable like they do on other mobos (790i, P35). With extreme tweaking (DRAM DLL ec, you cannot expect all people aware of howto do it) I am able to run cl6 2t 580fsb at 1:2 dividers, no way to make those RAM working at cl5. The Corsair is easy working at cl5 1t with same settings.
    hmmmm are you sure its a 2t thing? so as soon as you manually set 2t the memory does work stable?
    i suspect its an advanced timing thing... corsair is known for tweaking their spds well, so they probably set some good subtimings through the spd, while the other kits dont have such a fine tuned spd and the bios might set too tight subtimings by default.

    Quote Originally Posted by StellaNor View Post
    I know your engs working hard on it. 2nd priority should be 1:3 dividers and 1:4
    As said, there is a wide range of customers. Foxconn will be wrong if they believe there is just enthusiast interested into the Blackops. I dont expect 100 percent of different brands of RAM working on the motherboard, but a more wider range will be nice.
    yes, but then again i dont think we should try to make everything plug and playable, i will try to churn out some guides so unexperienced users can get a rough idea what timings to use and maybe copy paste some basic timing and option presets, and work on a list of tested and known to be working memory

    thanks again for taking your time to post some useful feedback!

    telo, about corrosion, exactly what i experienced and was told, there is always corrosion if you dont use an additive, and yes, alu and copper mixes corrode faster than copper copper or alu alu mixes, but the difference is tiny.
    when you actually see corrosion, then thats just a layer on the surface of the metal which is a few atoms thick... and once you have this layer of oxidized and corroded atoms on top of the base of the metal, the corosion slows down big time, since there is no longer a direct contact between the metal bases and the water and lose metal atoms and oxigen atoms floating in it...

    the corrosion will only be a problem if you use a waterblock that is very restrictive at one point and a very powerfull pump, so the flow speed is extremely high at one point, constantly wearing off layer after layer of corroded atoms and then eat itself into the metal base.

    but even if this happens, think about it... how thick are the waterblocks at the spots the flow speed is extremely high? the thinnest parts, some fins, are probably 1mm thick or more... itll take months if not years to corrode them away. at least from what ive been told from my physics teacher and several wb gear mfgs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    Are your serious? You need 1.3625v to get a mere 4Ghz? I know all CPUs are different, but I can do 4Ghz [9.5 x 421; 8 x 500] with 1.20v set on the BIOS. You should really try to bring the voltage down.
    hmmm culd just be an older 8500, the initial wolfdales needed quite high vcore to reach 4ghz
    4ghz with 1.2v is really nice... the best ive seen is 1.1v iirc... and thats a really really sweet cpu

    GTFouts, so during post you see the actual cpu speed as it should be, and the multi of 9.5, but in windows it drops back to 9x, right?
    what setting do you use in the windows power management panel?
    what happens if you increase the multi in windows using aegis panel?

    when you use a low multi and the 1333 memory divider and push up the fsb in windows using aegis panel bit by bit, what happens? how high can you get the memory?

    sashin, you cant install windows even at stock speed?
    did you load optimized defaults and tried again?
    what temps is your cpu at? could you try a different hdd?
    can you try using only one stick of memory and see if that works?

    what settings did you run the cpu and memory with initially that worked and then started to get more and more unstable?

    Chris_redfield, could you please post your bios settings in detail? thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    Its strange I updated to the the new G27 Foxconn Blackops BETA BIOS and all my scores went up dramatically.

    Did you guys put some magic in that G27 BIOS?
    ask lardarse... im not sure what exactly he and the engineers did in g27

    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    Quick question, I'm currently using the G27 BIOS, and the Aegis panel is alarming the hell out of me. I have set the CPU, PLL and VTT voltages to a certain value in the BIOS and the Aegis panel reports extremely higher values, like so:

    vCore: 1.30v [BIOS] 1.35v [AP]
    VTT: 1.35v [BIOS] 1.425v [AP]
    PLL: 1.54v [BIOS] 1.92v [AP]

    The PPL and VTT values reported are extremely dangerous, what is going on?

    I can't wait for morning time, I'm going to overclock my @$$ and run it down to Radio Shack [local "tech" shop] and get a multimeter.
    hmmmmm let me check it to be sure, but im pretty certain its reading the options wrong...

    what version of the panel are you using?

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    blindfitter, what settings are you using in the windows power management panel?

    meh, what a mega post... quite an easy way to kill time on a sunday
    time to go out and fight my way through the crowds of tai pei and hunt for some lunch

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    blindfitter, what settings are you using in the windows power management panel?

    meh, what a mega post... quite an easy way to kill time on a sunday
    time to go out and fight my way through the crowds of tai pei and hunt for some lunch
    this one


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    4ghz 1v, say whaaaaaaaa
    nice man

    hmmm so the .5 multi doesnt stick in windows hummm...
    k, ill add that to the list ill hand over to the engineers on monday, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotF Bane View Post
    Thanks for the name, it was in his posts list. It looks like he just gave VTT and PLL, nothing for DIMM.
    you can find it here:

    http://www.awardfabrik.de/mainboards...lackops-6.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTFouts View Post
    I have flashed all my 1600 modules with the new SPD files Tony made and still cant get it to work at 1600, been trying for 12 hours straight. Just isn't fun anymore. It works perfectly at 1333 with the new flash, I will say that. Boots right up with ratio set to AUTO and timings set to BY SPD. Hell, I have it running right now at 4.3GHz 13x333 with those set to auto. So, I'll just wait for a few more bios upgrades, hopefully that will straighten it out some.

    I do have a note of strangness for you SAAYA. The RATIO +0.5 Enable doesnt seem to be working right, on my MB anyway. If it is set to DISABLE, then CPUz & OCCT show what its set too and SuperPi runs at the speeds it should for a 1M calculation. But if I set 0.5 to ENABLE then the CPU sets itself to 9x333 as per CPUz & OCCT and SuperPi 1M runs at 9x333 speed, which on my MB is 15 sec. Check out these screenies for the different bios settings. Maybe should be looked at?
    (Edit - this is the G27 Bios)

    (Edit - Its not settings the FSB back to 333, it stays where its set too, it's just reverting the multiplier back to 9x when you enable the 0.5 Ratio, in windows. Posting screen shows it set to the .5 and the speed also)

    Top Left Pic - Bios set to 12x333, Ratio Disabled

    Top Right Pic - Bios set to 12x333, Ratio Enabled

    Bottom Left Pic - Bios set to 13x333, Ratio Disabled

    Bottom Right Pic - Bios set to 13x333, Ratio Enabled
    try d/ling crystal cpuid
    http://crystalmark.info/download/#CrystalCPUID

    use intel speedstep to adjust multiplier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sashin View Post
    I have a major problem guys. I have been reading through this thread for several weeks and just tring to solve my problems myself with the advice that is given in this thread by various people BUT i have come to my limits here. I had OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 ram with this Blackops BUT after reading through this thread i purchased the CellShock 1866 ram with the Blue heatsink!!
    I have quad core 9650 and i have the P04 bios. with this bios i was able to boot with Anandtech memory settings at 1600 (400fsb) and multi 10 for 4.0Ghz. I nstalled my ativirus software and all was well for a while then i started having intermittent periods where the system would just not respond in Windows Vista 32bit....i would have to wait several minutes after even clicking on the start button!! I thought it was the antivirus software so i tried to uninstall it BUT the system kept hanging...so i decided to reinstall WIndows Vista Ultimate Edition to start fresh. Now when i try to reinstall windows the whole thing just hangs during the initial setup screen.all this at default 3.0 setting with my Cellshock at 1333 or 1066....1600 is just out of the question.
    I would just like to install windows with my quad core and cellshock at stock first then slowly crank up the system to 4.0. I am watercooling the processor at present. Anyone in this forum with quadcore 9650 and cellshock with this mobo ...please give some advice on how to get this machine of mine booting with vista installed. Thanks again
    can u try bios g27 from here?
    http://www.quantum-force.net/downloa...VOhgnOu4NMN8A=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_redfield View Post
    I have read through this thread about five times now and am still having a little bit of difficulty. If anyone has managed to succefully get a decent overclock using a Wolfdale CPU then please could they post me the settings they are using. I using two 1gb sticks of OCZ 1800MHZ DDR3.

    When I first got the board about a week and a half ago I managed to get the memory running at 1800mhz with the CPU running at about 3.8ghz. It would crash after about five minutes but I quickly discovered that one of the pins on the CPU cooler wasn't quite in all the way so just assumed it was overheating.

    I have only just managed to get back to using the board today, having come back from the Isle of Wight festival and plumbing the board into a watercooled rig (CPU and Northbridge are being cooled.) It seems that I can't get a stable overclock at anything other than stock settings, for some bizzarre reason I can't downclock the memory. I can get the CPU to 4ghz and the memory to 2000mhz but after 10 seconds to five minutes in windows the system reboots. Prime 95 fails almost immediately but doesn't always cause the system to reboot straight away. This is the first 'proper high end,' motherboard I have ever owned, and while I have had extensive experience overclocking it has mainly been with Asus motherboards so I am a little bit lost with this board to say the least. I have tried the P02, P04 and G22 Bios's and the P04 seems to be the most stable that I have used so far.

    If anyone has used a wolfdale (especially an E8400 with some OCZ,) then their overclocking settings would be like stone tablets handed down from heaven so that I can peruse them and tweak them for my own machine (I realise that not everyone's settings will be suitable.)

    Cheers in advance for any help and suggestions.
    before trying high mem speed + fsb, try high fsb lower memspeed /latency

    try bios g26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    I gather you finally got over that hump of not being able to run your RAM at rated speed?

    Nope.

    The board will not run the 8GB DDR3 at XMB SPD settings. It will not run all 8GB at 1600Mhz at all. However, the BIOS is at least reading the SPD settings correctly now, before it would not read them at all.

    Overclock recovery works now too, and I do not need to do the swap trick to get a post. It will post with all 8GB on auto defaults which is nice, it gives me much more safety and less hassle to try different settings.

    I did get it to boot at 8GB, 1600Mhz, 8-9-9-24 2T, 1.95V, however it corrupted my Vista 64 installation.

    So I have dialed it back. The 3dMark06 result that I just posted was at 8GB, 1345Mhz, 6-6-6-16 1T, 1.8V. What I don't understand is why can I run all 8GB at pretty tight timings at 1345Mhz and it is rock solid stable P95, passes memtest etc., but there is no way (so far) to get it to stable at 1600Mhz.

    Anyway I am moderately satisfied with the 6-6-6-16 1T 1345Mhz for now as it seems to me to be a decent result for 8GB.

    What is so strange though is that my 3Dmark06 score was like 18000 flat before. Alll I did was install G27, re-enter my settings and my score went up about 950 points! This makes me think that somehow G27 must have fixed a bug.

    Also I do not know the logistics of this but I would really like to see more fixed memory dividers added to the BIOS. Does anyone know would it be possible to add 1:3.5 or 1:3.6 divider please?

    I think that eventually I will get the 8GB stable at 1450Mhz to 1500Mhz range which will be good enough for me.

    Wish I could teleport one of the experts to my house for an hour so they could try themselves and maybe diagnose why this board has problems with large amounts of memory, although I have done some more reading and realize I might have been a little optimistic to expect 1600Mhz 7-7-7-20 for all 8GB, although something like 9-10-10-26 should work and I don't know why it won't.

    I will be switching to 790i eventually because I want another GTX280, but will probably wait until price drop, so I will be with Blackops for at least another 2-3months. (maybe if Foxconn keep improving I will get dreadnought)

    Also it is really great that there is such good support now for this board. When I bought this on release day it was like 10 days after that until there was any response. I don't mind working and tweaking but it was annoying at first when it seemed Foxconn was not going to offer support for their product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    hmmm so the .5 multi doesnt stick in windows hummm...
    I am also still having this bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    I would suggest you leave the CPU at stock settings [3.0Ghz @ 333FSB], dial in your RAM at 7-7-7-15 1.81v and leave everything else at auto. Set the RAM divider to 1:4 333 and make sure the + 0.5 multiplier is disabled. Try installing Windows again and let us know what develops.

    Good man Telo, that is exactly what i did after i posted i question in this forum and it has worked. I have managed to install Windows Vista with SP1. Now i have Anandtech's memory setting BUT all voltage setting are at stock. RAM divider is at 1:4 333 and 0.5 multi is disabled. I am currently using G26 BIOS. Now anyone here using these blue heatspreader Cellshocj and QX9650 running at 4.0 or higher stable 24/7? Please post your setting here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sashin View Post
    Good man Telo, that is exactly what i did after i posted i question in this forum and it has worked. I have managed to install Windows Vista with SP1. Now i have Anandtech's memory setting BUT all voltage setting are at stock. RAM divider is at 1:4 333 and 0.5 multi is disabled. I am currently using G26 BIOS. Now anyone here using these blue heatspreader Cellshocj and QX9650 running at 4.0 or higher stable 24/7? Please post your setting here.
    Regards.

    Glad to hear you are up and running. You are in luck, a few of the guys here have the QX9650 and the CellShock blue kit. I'm pretty sure it will not take long before they post their settings for you.

    PS: BIOS G27 is on the Quantum-Force.net download page.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    hmmmmm let me check it to be sure, but im pretty certain its reading the options wrong...

    what version of the panel are you using?
    I just downloaded/installed version 1.02.32. It no longer shows a crazy PLL, but it reads the voltage I set on the BIOS for the VTT [not actual according to some that say the BIOS is .1v off]. Also, it said my CPU is running at 1.35v, when I set the BIOS to 1.30v; then the right panel shows the vCore voltage at 1.28v. This is really confusing, so I'll just get a multimeter tomorrow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LardArse View Post
    before trying high mem speed + fsb, try high fsb lower memspeed /latency

    try bios g26
    vnb: 1.6v
    vdimm: 2.15v
    vtt 1.35v
    skew = 300ps
    Divider : 1:2.66
    CL 5-6-6-18 perf level 9 2t
    try booting at 520fsb
    Cheers lardarse, I just woke up so will try this now. Just a quick question and I really don't want to sound like a complete pansy for asking it BUT the OCZ is only rated at 1.95v I haven't yet taken it past 1.99 am I at risk of frying the memory?

    I wouldn't even bother asking or being so cautious if I was just using DDR2, but am a little wary of frying a £130 set of RAM. Granted I know I could have paid a lot more for a better kit (and should have done in retrospect, I don't usually even buy OCZ it's just this stuff was on offer and it seemed a great price. I also don't have a spare kit if anything goes wrong I don't think I'm capable of sitting on my hands while waiting for more RAM to arrive in the post.

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    ceevee, i think tight timings low speed are easier to get cause the higher the clockspeeds the more crosstalk you get... when it comes to high frequencies dll adjustments are needed, and i guess you didnt play with that yet?

    and about the bios now reading the spd properly, what did you do?
    update the bios or the sticks spd?

    about the board having problems with 8gb of ddr3... can you run the memory at 1600 on another board? i dont think there is any intel chipset board that can run 8gb ddr3 1600 without any tweaking... even for 790 boards that wont be easy afaik...
    you cant just run twice the amount of memory and expect it to work at the same speed with the same voltages and timings as running only half of it...

    for 8gb of memory the chipset has to drive and control 64 memory chips!
    thats a whole lot of a difference compared to 32 memory chips...
    there is a limitation of what the chipset can and cant do

    i will try my best to help you tweaking the memory to get up there, but i dont think you will see a perf gain over 1333+ cas6 running 1600 cas8 or cas9... and 1600 cas7 with 8gb of ram... im not sure if thats even possible... it might work on some boards with some kits of mem... but not for every combination...

    1:3.5 or 1:3.6 dividers... thats the first time i hear about such a divider and i dont think it exists... we cant just add dividers... they have to be implemented in hardware by intel. there might be such a divider and other ones as well, but intel doesnt even mention them, so even if they exist, they probably dont work well or dont work at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    I just downloaded/installed version 1.02.32. It no longer shows a crazy PLL, but it reads the voltage I set on the BIOS for the VTT [not actual according to some that say the BIOS is .1v off]. Also, it said my CPU is running at 1.35v, when I set the BIOS to 1.30v; then the right panel shows the vCore voltage at 1.28v. This is really confusing, so I'll just get a multimeter tomorrow.
    yes, itll show vtt .1 too high for 45nm cpus, just like the bios, ill check if we can change this or at least add a note that its .1v less for 45nm cpus

    what do you mean with the right panel shows you 1.28v?

    if you set 1.30v in bios and the latest version of the panel shows 1.28v then that sounds like the right vcore. but yeah, if you want, go and check it with a dmm

    Chris_redfield, from my experience id say 2v is 100% safe, but check with tony, i actually think ocz actually allows slightly higher max vdimm that what they are rated for. it should mention it on your kit, or check the specs of your kit on the ocz website.
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    The sticker on the kit said 1.95, but on the website it says 1.95-2 volts. So that gives me a bit of leeway.

    I can't seem to be able to push the memory past 1120mhz though. Well I can, but it's not stable. I have managed a 3.8ghz stable overclock though with the 2.6 strap. I'm just pushing to get into the magical 4ghz plane at the moment with little success.

    I seem to be getting the best results with the G27 BIOS as well. The G26 was the worse one I have experimented with. I could barely get into windows let alone post.

    Cheers for all the help guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_redfield View Post
    Cheers lardarse, I just woke up so will try this now. Just a quick question and I really don't want to sound like a complete pansy for asking it BUT the OCZ is only rated at 1.95v I haven't yet taken it past 1.99 am I at risk of frying the memory?
    You won't fry it at all. Reviewrs have run that RAM at 2.3v from what I can recall. I myself, took it to 2.0v on an ASUS, didn't go beyond it because the warranty would be voided out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    yes, itll show vtt .1 too high for 45nm cpus, just like the bios, ill check if we can change this or at least add a note that its .1v less for 45nm cpus

    what do you mean with the right panel shows you 1.28v?

    if you set 1.30v in bios and the latest version of the panel shows 1.28v then that sounds like the right vcore. but yeah, if you want, go and check it with a dmm
    By right panel I meant the right wing of the Aegis panel [it has a left and a right wing]. The left one shows the vCore at 1.3500v, but in the form of a drop down menu; while the right one shows it like it was an actual reading.


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