Water cooling the Asus Maximus SE X38

[Aldy402]

mines OCs exactly like yours and I run 1.52v 24/7 all day @ 3.825GHZ

[Talonman]

For my 3.81GHz, I keep my at CPU Voltage : 1.506v (BIOS), 1.49v in Everest.
I think that is safe....

I just don't know when you start to get into 1.55v's and above, if it can hurt your CPU if I wanted to chase 3.9GHz or 4.0GHz...
A Core voltage of 1.55 and above is what my board will require to hit thoes kind of numbers.
That would be BIOS setting too.

[dogin]

Looks good Talonman. I tend to agree about the 1.5v range, but you could see what temps you get a little higher??

[Talonman]

Yes... Priming 45 minutes at 1.9GHz made my CPU to go to about 53C.
1.8GHz is much easier to hit, and still get Everest to register 4. anything.

It was strictly the Voltage I was putting to the Core that scared me.

With my current 1.8GHz setting, just surfing the web for 3 hours, (pritty much idle) temps are:
Core1-24C, Core2-23C, Core3-22C, Core4-24C.

NB-22C
SB-26C

Room temp-61.3F.

[neo_rtr]

I ask the guys at MIPS few questions about their freezers. They have been very helpfull and got some answers regarding the installation.
I believe you understand the questions

a) freezers comes without backplates, for the nb you must use the
original backplate and screws/springs
b)the fittings must be 1/4" and the threads should have max. 5mm, if
your fittings are longer than 5mm u must use our distance rings which
are included to every freezer
c) there is no problem with the 8800gtx card, when you look at the pic and
take a imaginare line from the 2nd pcie 1.0 slot you will see thats enough
space.

(will make a new thread for the installation, need to get some other bits here and there before i start)

[Talonman]

Thanks for the update, and keep us posted..

[WFO]

Yes... Priming 45 minutes at 1.9GHz made my CPU to go to about 53C.
1.8GHz is much easier to hit, and still get Everest to register 4. anything.

It was strictly the Voltage I was putting to the Core that scared me.

With my current 1.8GHz setting, just surfing the web for 3 hours, (pritty much idle) temps are:
Core1-24C, Core2-23C, Core3-22C, Core4-24C.

NB-22C
SB-26C

Room temp-61.3F.

Hey Talonman, just wanted to say thanks for the detailed reports of your OC adventures. As a folder first, I strive for stable clocks in extreme temps. 85-103F I couldn't resist putting the pedal to the metal for some benchies after your posts. I hope to improve on both of these before the hot weather arrives. .

Edit: And no, I didn't bother running prime95 because I'm still chicken. I have no intention of running this voltage 24/7. Maybe after another 6 months of lurking and learning. I've followed all the Maximus threads since this board was released. With the problems I've read about, I dreaded starting the OC process. This has been the easiest board to OC I've ever had. I've had a couple failed OCs and 1 hard lockup. I haven't had to clear cmos once. And I never even hooked up the LCD display. Best board I've owned yet!!! Beats down my P5Ks without even breathing hard.

[Talonman]

No problem.... 3.9GHz

Sweet!

1.528V!! Running er into the red zone too I see....

[WFO]

No problem.... 3.9GHz

Sweet!

1.528V!! Running er into the red zone too I see....

LOL! You were my guinea pig. Thanks for injecting some courage into a chicken. I've never been extreme but I'm working on it!

[Talonman]

WFO, I just found this info in the Intel section of the board. It is an OC Q6600 voltage chart! I guess me having to run a 1.55v core setting in the BIOS to get 3.9GHz, isn't as dangerous or uncommon as I origionally had thought....

Have you seen this? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=157690

Q6600 Table-----------------------------

Q6600 G0 - L727A856 - 4.36Ghz P stable - PC (custom) - 1.7v - Asus P5K-E - by -------------------jinu117
Q6600 G0 - L737B186 - 4.01Ghz - WC (custom) - 1.504v - ASUS P5K Prem - by --------------------Devious
Q6600 G0 - L727A934 - 4Ghz P stable - PC Vapo LS - 1.425v - ASUS P5K Prem - by ----------------dragonhunter
Q6600 G0 - L723A795 - 4Ghz P stable - PC jinu117 - 1.485v - ASUS P5K Prem - by -----------------billdavis
Q6600 G0 - L724A629 - 4Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.6v - EVGA 680i - by ------------------turtletrax
Q6600 G0 - L724A784 - 4Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.62v - ASUS P5K Prem - by ------------TinTin
Q6600 G0 - L723B010 - 4Ghz (500x8) P stable - WC D-Tek fuzion - 1.64v - ASUS Blitz Formula - by---Ic3man
Q6600 G0 - L725B057 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.496V - ASUS P5K-E - by ------------dj883u2
Q6600 G0 - L723B284 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.52v- DFI P35-T2R - by - --------------RLM
Q6600 G0 - L726A840 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.5375v - EVGA 680i - by ---------------CraptacularOne
Q6600 G0 - L726A822 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.58v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by ------------rbsmontemor
Q6600 G0 - L726A951 - 3.85Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.52v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by -----------no_n|ck
Q6600 G0 - L726A850 - 3.85Ghz P stable - AC TR Ultra 120 - 1.537v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by ----------crossg.
Q6600 G0 - L727A918 - 3.82Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.52v - ASUS Striker Extreme - by -----linflas
Q6600 G0 - L724A*** - 3.82Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.54v - ASUS Striker Extreme - by----nugzo
Q6600 G0 - L723A674 - 3.81Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT- 1.54v Gigabyte DS4 - by ----------------aspms*
Q6600 G0 - L731B163 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC Tuniq Tower - 1.525v - Maximus Formula SE - by ------loc.o
Q6600 G0 - L726A*** - 3.8Ghz P stable - WC - 1.43v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by -------------------------njkid32
Q6600 G0 - L727A673 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC TR Ultra - 1.472v - Gigabtye P35-DQ6 - by ------------dertimaushh
Q6600 G0 - L720B066 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC TR 120 - 1.5v - Abit IP35 Pro - by --------------------Ace-a-Rue
Q6600 G0 - L726A849 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC TR Ultra 120 - 1.5v ASUS P5K E - by ------------------sam95ta
Q6600 G0 - L724A*** - 3.8Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.55v - DFI P35-T2R - by ---------------RLM
Q6600 G0 - L719B278 - 3.8Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.6v - Abit IP35-Pro - by - ------------vkostas


I now think I can set my CPU core voltage higher than 1.555v's in the BIOS, and expect my CPU should be able to brunt it fine! Especially on water...

In case you guys havent figured it out yet, I'm a charts and listings guy!!

[disruptfam]

man i said that awhile back

[Talonman]

I remember.... But I needed to see the numbers.

I believe, I believe....

[WFO]

WFO, I just found this info in the Intel section of the board. It is an OC Q6600 voltage chart! I guess me having to run a 1.55v core setting in the BIOS to get 3.9GHz, isn't as dangerous or uncommon as I origionally had thought....

Have you seen this? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=157690

Q6600 Table-----------------------------

Q6600 G0 - L727A856 - 4.36Ghz P stable - PC (custom) - 1.7v - Asus P5K-E - by -------------------jinu117
Q6600 G0 - L737B186 - 4.01Ghz - WC (custom) - 1.504v - ASUS P5K Prem - by --------------------Devious
Q6600 G0 - L727A934 - 4Ghz P stable - PC Vapo LS - 1.425v - ASUS P5K Prem - by ----------------dragonhunter
Q6600 G0 - L723A795 - 4Ghz P stable - PC jinu117 - 1.485v - ASUS P5K Prem - by -----------------billdavis
Q6600 G0 - L724A629 - 4Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.6v - EVGA 680i - by ------------------turtletrax
Q6600 G0 - L724A784 - 4Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.62v - ASUS P5K Prem - by ------------TinTin
Q6600 G0 - L723B010 - 4Ghz (500x8) P stable - WC D-Tek fuzion - 1.64v - ASUS Blitz Formula - by---Ic3man
Q6600 G0 - L725B057 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.496V - ASUS P5K-E - by ------------dj883u2
Q6600 G0 - L723B284 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.52v- DFI P35-T2R - by - --------------RLM
Q6600 G0 - L726A840 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.5375v - EVGA 680i - by ---------------CraptacularOne
Q6600 G0 - L726A822 - 3.9Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.58v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by ------------rbsmontemor
Q6600 G0 - L726A951 - 3.85Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.52v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by -----------no_n|ck
Q6600 G0 - L726A850 - 3.85Ghz P stable - AC TR Ultra 120 - 1.537v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by ----------crossg.
Q6600 G0 - L727A918 - 3.82Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.52v - ASUS Striker Extreme - by -----linflas
Q6600 G0 - L724A*** - 3.82Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.54v - ASUS Striker Extreme - by----nugzo
Q6600 G0 - L723A674 - 3.81Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT- 1.54v Gigabyte DS4 - by ----------------aspms*
Q6600 G0 - L731B163 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC Tuniq Tower - 1.525v - Maximus Formula SE - by ------loc.o
Q6600 G0 - L726A*** - 3.8Ghz P stable - WC - 1.43v - ASUS P5K Dlx - by -------------------------njkid32
Q6600 G0 - L727A673 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC TR Ultra - 1.472v - Gigabtye P35-DQ6 - by ------------dertimaushh
Q6600 G0 - L720B066 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC TR 120 - 1.5v - Abit IP35 Pro - by --------------------Ace-a-Rue
Q6600 G0 - L726A849 - 3.8Ghz P stable - AC TR Ultra 120 - 1.5v ASUS P5K E - by ------------------sam95ta
Q6600 G0 - L724A*** - 3.8Ghz P stable - WC Apogee GT - 1.55v - DFI P35-T2R - by ---------------RLM
Q6600 G0 - L719B278 - 3.8Ghz P stable - WC D-Tek Fuzion - 1.6v - Abit IP35-Pro - by - ------------vkostas


I now think I can set my CPU core voltage higher than 1.555v's in the BIOS, and expect my CPU should be able to brunt it fine! Especially on water...

In case you guys havent figured it out yet, I'm a charts and listings guy!!
Raw data is my :banana::banana::banana::banana:!

I remember a thread from about 8 months ago asking who was running 1.5 or over for 24/7. There were a good 3 pages of responses. Most here don't seem to care if they only get 6 months out of a cpu because something better will be released that they will buy. I should probably adopt that philosophy. For some reason my mindset has been that I need 2 years out of the procs in my folding farm but I've been upgrading about every 8 months. Too, my clocks have always been temp limited as average temps are 88-93F in the summer. I think this rig has the cooling for 3.8 in the summer. Yesterday I did some tinkering with 1.575 vcore in the bios. I'll probably keep looking for a bench stable 4.0 as I want to improve my 3DMark '06 and 32M Super Pi scores.

[Xilikon]

After seeing the chart, it gave me the wish to try to run 3.8 GHz 24/7. I have one of the best G0 on hand (proven to get over 4 GHz by someone else here with the same batch as mine).

[Talonman]

I think I may fool around and try for the coveted 4GHz myself too!

If any of you guys get 4GHz stable on the Maximus, post up your Core voltage.

I do know what you mean WFO on the mindset of protecting your chips. But I bet we both will be on another processor in 12 months....

We both might have to just run the pants off of our Q6600's.

[neo_rtr]

I have placed orders for the remaining of the parts.
MIPS Freezers by Sixdesign are on delivery route. PS Michael from Mips has been vey kind and assisting me with the order. (very pleased customer,i am)
Some other parts coming from Vcore.dk who by they way are very easy to deal with. also ordered the D-Tek FuZion Intel 775 Pro-Mount Set
Not to make any advert, but both firms have been very service minded

[Talonman]

That is good to hear, and think that super customer service dosen't happin enouigh in this world!

Glad to hear you have your parts in route too...

[neo_rtr]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...85#post2767385

Link to my worklog for the installation of the MIPS freezers

[Talonman]

Thanks for posting your exact order in that link. I am sure it will help the next guy out that want's to go the same route as you did..

We will be watching...

Don't be shy on giving this thread some direct updates too.

I will be wanting a temp report out of you!
The OP's listing is dyeing for some numbers on your blocks.

[Durkadurka]

How did you guys mount the EK S-MAX with the backplate that came with the SE?
The screws supplied with the block dont fit at all, so I guess you modded the backplate somehow.

I'm also wondering about the Mosfet-blocks, could I just keep the thermal pads already on the board? (They didnt come off when I removed the cooler)

[Talonman]

How did you guys mount the EK S-MAX with the backplate that came with the SE?
The screws supplied with the block dont fit at all, so I guess you modded the backplate somehow.

I'm also wondering about the Mosfet-blocks, could I just keep the thermal pads already on the board? (They didnt come off when I removed the cooler)

Page 30. Cutt um and drilled um!

Not sure what most of the MOSFET guys are doing for their blocks, TIM or pads?


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You guys will have to forgive me, this was already posted in the section for Q6600 temps, but I simply must call attention to the performance I'm getting out of that NB block....

Taking advantage of this cold Ohio day, I cut Prime loose for an extended run using my 'new improved' normal every day 3.8GHz settings:

My 4 hour error free run using my 3.8GHz settings. Room temp was a brisk 55°F or 12.7°C:


Granted, my basement is a cold sucker, but ya still have to give the block some big credit for keeping the NB at 22°C, 4 hours in with the hammer down hard.
I am officially an EK fan!

My basement is so cold I feel guilty even thinking about updating the chart! .... snicker. I think I should probably let this one slide?

Can you believe it, now my crappy basement makes me feel guilty for having low temps!

However I am proud of my shiny NB block, and how it tames the NB'es heat on the Maximus.

1 Free life tip: If you have a cold basement, go stand outside and smoke your pipe (Captain Black BTW! ). When you come back in, it seems warm! Just keep your hat on and fire up a game. With a sweat-shirt on, you'll sweating like a pig in no time.

It's quite evident that my system loves my temps that aren't fit for most humans! I really am used to it, and dress accordingly...
We truly have an OC season in this house, in my basement.

[dogin]

Talonman, You are too funny, but that is an oustanding result!!!!!!!!!! I have one more block (NB) coming that was waiting for a modified top before they ship it. Got my Fluid XP+ Extreme - UV Deep Purple fluid today so getting close. Still have to finish painting inside of case Black Cherry Metallic (Should be a good contrast with the purple fluid) and touch up the edges on the cut out for the PA120.3 on the case top. Need some warm days.

[Talonman]

One more fine rig will be comming online.

Glad to hear, and keep us posted.

[Exahertz]

Not sure what most of the MOSFET guys are doing for their blocks, TIM or pads?

Pads

TIM is just not suited for this application

>The MOSFET blocks don't have much support except for one off-center mounting point on each end allowing it to wobble a lot. If you use TIM it could be continusily squished in many different ways that it could be moved right out from under the block.

>While using pads they will stay in place much better.

>you also cant acheive the pressure required to make good TIM contact.

>Furthermore, if you dont use a back plate there will be a little bowing and the MOSFET chips in the middle may not make any contact at all!

>pads are a lot thicker than TIM, so they will form to the bow a little better.

> the amount of cooling required to cool the MOSFET chips is minimal. so theres no need for high proformance TIM

Tip: use the pads that are removed from the original MOSFET cooler as their the perfect cut size.

[neo_rtr]

Today i was very excited as i received the package with the freezers.
Nicely packaged sent by airmail. From the day of purchase door to door 4 days! Excelent.
Each freezer is nicely packed in a air bubble bag.

By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-14


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-14

Before I start I notice that the bottom place is not mirror like. This is the same for all freezers.
For the Mosfets you will need the pads from the original fusion block
For the Northbridge you will need the backplate and the screws from the original fusion block.
For the Southbridge screws, washers are provided

This is the Southbridge freezer

By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-14

Nice copper with 2 distance rings and plastic washers.

It has been said that: the fittings should be ¼” and the threads should have max. 5mm, if your fittings are longer than 5mm, then must use the distance rings which are included to every freezer.
Thus the of the HI-Flow Hose Barb - 3/8" (G-1/4" Thread) with the following specifications Thread Length: 4.5mm (.18") should fit and the distance rings are not needed.

Now that i try it on this happens

By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-14

The one with out the distance ring is not airtight. meaning that i must use the distance ring, who by the way was a O-ring. So one side fits the freezers and the other from the barb (O-ring) the distance ring.


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-14