ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[chuckbam]

Help just bought used p5b deluxe....havin trouble board powers up, after an initial powerup leads straight into a powerdown before a few seconds then board kicks into life...fans kick in etc though nothing seems to be going to monitor or keyboard or mouse as no lights come on on any of those items...also i was looking for the bios chip....where is it? can't see what i normally associate with bios chip being in a socket?

What Bios revision is on the board and what CPU do you have. One time (and I have had several P5B-D's) I needed to install a old CPU to boot to an updated bios. I was having the same problem you are haveing.

Just something to check out.

[aledsav1]

What Bios revision is on the board and what CPU do you have. One time (and I have had several P5B-D's) I needed to install a old CPU to boot to an updated bios. I was having the same problem you are haveing.

Just something to check out.

thanks for reply havn't got board in front of me but rev104 or something close...oh iv just emailed seller saying faulty, damn havn't got a old chip layin around, have got a celeron D...??any use for this socket.

[chuckbam]

thanks for reply havn't got board in front of me but rev104 or something close...oh iv just emailed seller saying faulty, damn havn't got a old chip layin around, have got a celeron D...??any use for this socket.

That is an old Bios, what CPU are you using? If the Celeron is a socket 775 it will do the job. Maybe not if if it is a celron-D.

I would not call it a defective boad because it has and older bios. You can buy a basic cel at newegg for aroubd $25.00. Good to have back if overclocking. See if that bios supports that chip on the ASUS Support Pages.

[chuckbam]

PC Probe and AI Suite. both load a an imitation driver called the ATK0110 ACPI Utility. When you install either of two programs, The ATK0110 will continue to run on your computer, both as a TSR and driver in the device manager.

Just after loading the two programs, I had Blue Screen crashes. I un-install It from the control panel but it was still there. I went into program directory and manually delete the two program. (That should have come off on the un-install) That did not work. I went into the registry and delete a number of entries. Some I could not delete even after taking ownership.

I was not able to disable the driver in the Device Manager and when I used the un-install and delete the drivers method in device manager, and the ATK0110 ACPI Utility re-appears on my next boot.

I booted up safe mode and was able to finally disable the utility/ driver. On re-boot, Windows Update wanted to install the driver. I hidden the update so I would not be bother with that again.

I I am still trying to take the disabled driver off of my system. If you know how, please let me know. ASUS went to a great effort to keep the ATTK0110 on your computer. Why I do not know.

Other simple programs can detect both the system temperature and the MHz without even making a program directory.

This thing is all over (was) my registry. Now I have just one registry area to delete, but it said that I do not have permission ! And, I know how and have many time taken permission of a .dll and many other type files. Why would ASUS do this.

I had a problem with that one other time a few years ago, but, the registry eateries where not doubled bolted shut. You can't kill this thing , thanks to ASUS.

It should all come off on an uninstall.

The driver in device manager is now disabled. But, I don't like looking at when I go in there. I think some of you enthusiast can relate.

And, I want the last entries out of my Registry. I am going to go through it again, If I can't get this BS off, I am going for help from ASUS.

But, it may not be in their trouble shooting manual, to get the real people in the know takes a little effort.

Can anyone help?

PS: no more blue screens to clean up after since it is gone. And, it has been a few days now with a lot of use.

[aledsav1]

That is an old Bios, what CPU are you using? If the Celeron is a socket 775 it will do the job. Maybe not if if it is a celron-D.

I would not call it a defective boad because it has and older bios. You can buy a basic cel at newegg for aroubd $25.00. Good to have back if overclocking. See if that bios supports that chip on the ASUS Support Pages.

Many Many thanks my celeron D was 775 and bios updated and all now fine...well apart form some driver issues!

[Angelico_Payne]

Right click on that driver registry key and go to permissions and then add read-write full permissions to your account name, then you can delete. Had a similar problem with that ridiculous driver ...

[aledsav1]

Just got my board up and running and in bios clocking...wheres the strap? moved from pw5 D>p5b D and on old board gave me a choice of strap not avail on this under fsb settings is ddr2 settings can't get my memory low enough when i set 440 fsb my memory is running to high??? im obviously overlooking something...help

[aledsav1]

Ok had a look around and fine dram and strap are intergrated.....this seems to be a problem for my overclocking.... when i raise the fsb my lower ram ratio's i.e 533/667 disappear is there anyway to raise fsb and lower dram other than board setting dram to 800+ lowest available speed open to me...means i can't oc my e6750 anywhere near what i was on p5w????

[chappjc]

@aledsav1: Posts #3 & #4 on This page contain the information you seek I believe.

[chappjc]

Ok had a look around and fine dram and strap are intergrated.....this seems to be a problem for my overclocking.... when i raise the fsb my lower ram ratio's i.e 533/667 disappear ...

I don't quite understand, They don't disappear, they correspond to 1:1, 4:5 and 2:3. If you stick to 1:1 you can raise your fsb very very high. Do you want the ratio to be less than 1? That is to have you RAM running slower than the bus speed? Excuse me for not knowing what options that p5w has, maybe it can do just that.

[chappjc]

I am still trying to take the disabled driver off of my system. If you know how, please let me know. ASUS went to a great effort to keep the ATTK0110 on your computer. Why I do not know.

Interesting, I installed the ATK0110 virtual device driver just to have everything in device manager with a driver. Got the driver from the "Utilities" section of the asus download page. Regarding the PC probe and ai suite, I have installed and uninstalled without a problem. Maybe try the ATK0100 driver from the website?

[aledsav1]

Yeah thanks had a glance through earlier though from what i was reading means i can't get as high a clock as i did on my less clockable p5wdeluxe??? got an e6750 multi 8 ill try dropping to 7 see if it lowers ram enabling increase on fsb

[aledsav1]

I don't quite understand, They don't disappear, they correspond to 1:1, 4:5 and 2:3. If you stick to 1:1 you can raise your fsb very very high. Do you want the ratio to be less than 1? That is to have you RAM running slower than the bus speed? Excuse me for not knowing what options that p5w has, maybe it can do just that.

Maybe im a bit confused my memory speed is 800 when i push my fsb up my bios shows (from what i think im reading) my options of runing my mem speed close to its rated speed disappear it looks like say 440fsb means memory at 850+ etc

[chuckbam]

Interesting, I installed the ATK0110 virtual device driver just to have everything in device manager with a driver. Got the driver from the "Utilities" section of the asus download page. Regarding the PC probe and ai suite, I have installed and uninstalled without a problem. Maybe try the ATK0100 driver from the website?

Hi,
I think you misunderstand, I am talking about removing the ATK0100 off your system. It made my computer unstable. Vista 64 HP.

[aledsav1]

OK...i am unable to overclock on p5b like i was on p5w due to not being able to keep my memory near its rated speed, when ever i increase my fsb the speed options for my memory increase, so i push my fsb to 460 and the lowest i can run my memory is 900+....my memory is 800 on p5w i was able to push fsb 460 and lower my memory to 667.....so far this board isn't allowing me to oc very well....please someone tell me theres something im missing.

[chuckbam]

OK...i am unable to overclock on p5b like i was on p5w due to not being able to keep my memory near its rated speed, when ever i increase my fsb the speed options for my memory increase, so i push my fsb to 460 and the lowest i can run my memory is 900+....my memory is 800 on p5w i was able to push fsb 460 and lower my memory to 667.....so far this board isn't allowing me to oc very well....please someone tell me theres something im missing.

I don't have the highest rated performance memory. I did, but it it not perform any better than the Memory I have now (Many reviews seem to be repeated sell out information provided by the manufacture, in my opinion)

The most I could ever hit stable was, a 450 / 900 MHz. Others, have achieve greater results. They may jump in. I am just giving you may experience of my system stability.

One thing odd about my DDR2, at looser timings, it will have an overclock error. At 5-4-4-12 it is stable. And, I have 4 one MB sticks. There must be a reason for this. I wish someone would explain it to me. I am running at 9x 360. I tested lower multipliers, but every time I had decreased video performance. Even with the video set at 110. Thus, I hit a wall. I also only have air cooling and had unstable throttle down at greater GHz.

You may want to try it.

[chappjc]

Hi,
I think you misunderstand, I am talking about removing the ATK0100 off your system. It made my computer unstable. Vista 64 HP.

No, that's why I thought it was interesting... because it didn't make my system unstable. I'm using XP x64 (Windows 2003), so that's different anyway. I was just making the observation that it seemed to work fine so maybe it was something PC Probe or Ai Suite left around. Best, chappjc

[chappjc]

OK...i am unable to overclock on p5b like i was on p5w due to not being able to keep my memory near its rated speed, when ever i increase my fsb the speed options for my memory increase, so i push my fsb to 460 and the lowest i can run my memory is 900+....my memory is 800 on p5w i was able to push fsb 460 and lower my memory to 667.....so far this board isn't allowing me to oc very well....please someone tell me theres something im missing.

Sounds like your P5W was actually letting you run your Ram at speeds lower than the FSB. (??) Either that or the options were just reading as 533, 667, 800 always when in reality they were higher. On your P5W, did CPU-Z's memory tab really display a FSB-to-DRAM ratio like 5:4 or something? I'm not familiar with that board.

In any case, decent PC2-6400 C4 RAM can push 900MHz with relaxed timings. Are you willing to drop to CL5 and up your voltage? Might help. I hope I'm not spouting off the obvious. Best of luck.

Maybe im a bit confused my memory speed is 800 when i push my fsb up my bios shows (from what i think im reading) my options of runing my mem speed close to its rated speed disappear it looks like say 440fsb means memory at 850+ etc

AFAIK, the lowest RAM speed you can do at 440fsb with this board is 880 using a 1:1 ratio.

[aledsav1]

Sounds like your P5W was actually letting you run your Ram at speeds lower than the FSB. (??) Either that or the options were just reading as 533, 667, 800 always when in reality they were higher. On your P5W, did CPU-Z's memory tab really display a FSB-to-DRAM ratio like 5:4 or something? I'm not familiar with that board.

In any case, decent PC2-6400 C4 RAM can push 900MHz with relaxed timings. Are you willing to drop to CL5 and up your voltage? Might help. I hope I'm not spouting off the obvious. Best of luck.


AFAIK, the lowest RAM speed you can do at 440fsb with this board is 880 using a 1:1 ratio.

Thanks for replies....be nice if others had a little input..
Yes on my p5w i was able to have my fsb 469 = 3.7+ and my rams speed reduced to enable this oc, if my ram wasn't reduced from its original speed plus the fsb 469 increase theres no way i could do it. this board will not let me reduce ram speed when fsb raised???? iv never had this problem with any other board...seems really odd not to be able to reduce my rams speeds...reason i moved to this board was had more ocing potential!!!! seems i should have stuck with p5w

Cpu-z....i would be able to choose 533 or 667 when fsb was 460+ and cpu-z should reduced ram speeds.

[aledsav1]

Ok iv got ocing block due to my ram i think (and the fact that this board wont allow me to lower rams speed when i overlock?) i have currently got corsair 6200@800 will run at 920 when i oc.....i need more! my chip is capable of more cause iv had higher on other board that allowed me to lower ram speeds.....what ram can i get thats compatible and going to give me room to oc higher...many thanks

[mashakos]

I've got speedfan 4.33 beta 18 but I still can't control fan speeds. All the fans show 0 rpm readings except CPU0 which is at 4441 RPM.
Is there some kind of setting I need to change in speedfan? Haven't found much on google regarding the subject.

I am using a P5b dlx wifi btw

[Kumakichi]

I don't think it works. Last time I checked it could only see a couple fans. I read the directions and even did a bunch of searches but never did find a way to control the fans as intended.

[accord99]

Disable QFan.

Only Chassis Fans 1-3 can be controlled and all three fans are controlled by a single setting, I believe it's Speed04. The CPU fan needs to be PWM to be controllable.

[unclewebb]

aledsav1: Looks like you're going to need some PC2-8500 to get the most out of your E6750. This stuff is rated to 533 MHz so with an 8X multi your CPU will be able to run at full speed without your memory holding it back.

The Intel P965 and P35 chipsets can only run your memory at a minimum of 1:1. Nvidia chipsets can let you run your memory at a fixed value of DDR2-800 but there are not too many boards with Nvidia chipsets that can overclock effortlessly to 500 MHz and beyond the way the Intel P965 and P35 chipset can.

[aledsav1]

aledsav1: Looks like you're going to need some PC2-8500 to get the most out of your E6750. This stuff is rated to 533 MHz so with an 8X multi your CPU will be able to run at full speed without your memory holding it back.

The Intel P965 and P35 chipsets can only run your memory at a minimum of 1:1. Nvidia chipsets can let you run your memory at a fixed value of DDR2-800 but there are not too many boards with Nvidia chipsets that can overclock effortlessly to 500 MHz and beyond the way the Intel P965 and P35 chipset can.

Many thanks at last a answer that gives me the insight i was lacking.....though id sort of come to the same conclusion without the tech detail....so iv been on the lookout for some 8500.....once again ta.