ATI HD4800 Review Thread

[Caveman787]

That would be crossfireX.

Why hasn't anyone adressed how much CPU power will be needed to unlock the full potential of these new cards?

Considering there increased speed by a pretty big margin one would assume they'd need much more power then the 3 ghz that was able to fully work the old cards.

[eric66]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,1964-19.html

[spursindonesia]

Would I be fine running a 4870 on my Corsair VX450 PSU?

That PSU is really conservatively rated -most Corsair PSUs are, it won't have any trouble powering a single HD 4870 and a quadcore CPU i suppose, especially if you're not into extreme OCing over your rig.

[865pe]

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...0,1964-19.html

4870 amazing

[mascaras]

Radeon HD 4870 (CF) vs. GeForce GTX 260 (SLI)



http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/h...itt_einleitung

Translated >> http://translate.google.pt/translate...pt-PT&ie=UTF-8

regards

[Ziwro]

My Review ;

http://forum.donanimhaber.com/m_24484051/tm.htm

[Hornet331]

regards

where are the power consumption disbelivers now?

4870 is a powerhog, same as 280gtx (thought the later one is it even more. :p )

@ review, seems 260gtx and 4870 trade blow with each other in sli/cf, but 4870 wins p/pf hands down.

[Caveman787]

omg stop comeing in these threads boasting up the gtx200's and down the 4000 series.

From all the reviews I've seen the 4870 takes less power at load and at idle more. More at idle is only because the powerplay or w/e isn't working properly yet except with msi bios. Which when it does will draw the same or less then the gtx200 series.

[SKYMTL]

where are the power consumption disbelivers now?

Right here. One again the review is anything but conclusive considering the test they ran.

[onethreehill]

Xbitlabs: ATI Radeon HD 4850 and 4870: Gaming Performance Review
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/d...800-games.html

[kuden]

http://translate.google.pt/translate...pt-PT&ie=UTF-8

man, the overclocking advantage of a gtx260 is really high, it's like a totally different card ,18% gain in fps is huge. it seems overclocking the ati barely does anything (even though it was a lower overclock , the effect seem to be meaningless compared to a gtx260 overclock).
not to mention it doesn't require bios, volt and other mods...
with the price drop , this kind of overclocking performance can make the gtx260 a clear winner.

[eric66]

Xbitlabs: ATI Radeon HD 4850 and 4870: Gaming Performance Review
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/d...800-games.html

according to this review nvidia doesn't need to lower prices of gtx260 they need 9800gtx+

[Hornet331]

omg stop comeing in these threads boasting up the gtx200's and down the 4000 series.

From all the reviews I've seen the 4870 takes less power at load and at idle more. More at idle is only because the powerplay or w/e isn't working properly yet except with msi bios. Which when it does will draw the same or less then the gtx200 series.

lol read my post... did i downplay the 4870?
i just pointed out that the 4870 is is not "the powersaver from haven" as so many people say... and still eats a considerable ammount of wattage, while the 280gtx beats it and consumes even more.

Right here. One again the review is anything but conclusive considering the test they ran.

you review is the only review that show a difference of 70W+ so i consider that as the absolute worse case, since i dont play batchmark test all the time i look for/at "real environment tests".
Its nice that some people try to do reviews the "right way", but if i plug in both cards and in normal gaming situations the difference is 30-50W at the sockte its just that: 30-50W difference. Thats the difference i need to pay for.

[Ch@pS]

omg stop comeing in these threads boasting up the gtx200's and down the 4000 series.

Im willing to bet over 90% of you posts start off trying to bash someone before you make your point. I've been watching you these last two days and thats what i see.

My 2c. After the price drop, the 260 is still slightly more expensive. But consider this, you buy the 260 GTX hassle free, it doesnt come with all the extra annoying baggage like the 4870 does. Bios flashes, cards dying randomly etc..

I dont know about you, but i would pay a small bit more for a problem free card.

However the 4870 is a good card and if i can buy a retail version with no problems i will get it, otherwise i will stay with nvidia for the time being.

[AbelJemka]

lol read my post... did i downplay the 4870?
i just pointed out that the 4870 is is not "the powersaver from haven" as so many people say... and still eats a considerable ammount of wattage, while the 280gtx beats it and consumes even more.

Quote those "many people"!

you review is the only review that show a difference of 70W+ so i consider that as the absolute worse case, since i dont play batchmark test all the time i look for/at "real environment tests".
Its nice that some people try to do reviews the "right way", but if i plug in both cards and in normal gaming situations the difference is 30-50W at the sockte its just that: 30-50W difference. Thats the difference i need to pay for.

The difference you will pay for is 200$ at first

My 2c. After the price drop, the 260 is still slightly more expensive. But consider this, you buy the 260 GTX hassle free, it doesnt come with all the extra annoying baggage like the 4870 does. Bios flashes, cards dying randomly etc..

There no need to bios flash to use it and there is no cards diying randomly!
It's easy to spead false information but difficult to restore the truth...

[adamsleath]

looking at translated article.

both 260 and 4870 r good cards, but i think 4870 has the edge, in many instances, and still is the overall winner bang for buck. i would need to see price parity for 260 and 4870 and even then, 4870 is too tempting. it seemed to me that 4870 came out on top in more cases and handles 8xAA/high res very well too.

it's a hard choice to make; both good cards. game specific drivers can make all the difference. it's easy to sit on the fence here.

[Ch@pS]

There no need to bios flash to use it and there is no cards diying randomly!
It's easy to spead false information but difficult to restore the truth...

This is XS, how many people wont oc this thing? sure you can run it without the flash, but at what temp? How many cards have died from the temps? it seems to be in a few threads here.

A friend wants to OC his 4870, but cant, the clocks just wont stay put. He has to bios flash to OC, how much harder is that than using say Evga's precision tool? Im sorry but that is needless, if nvidia can get it right, why cant AMD?

[Linchpin]

This is XS, how many people wont oc this thing? sure you can run it without the flash, but at what temp? How many cards have died from the temps? it seems to be in a few threads here.

A friend wants to OC his 4870, but cant, the clocks just wont stay put. He has to bios flash to OC, how much harder is that than using say Evga's precision tool? Im sorry but that is needless, if nvidia can get it right, why cant AMD?

+ 1

The 4870 will be a fine card when(or wait we're talking about ATI so make that if) they iron out the issues but till then it's got too many niggling problems for a lot of people.

[AbelJemka]

This is XS, how many people wont oc this thing? sure you can run it without the flash, but at what temp? How many cards have died from the temps? it seems to be in a few threads here.

Pointed me threads where 4800 died because of temp and after i will see.

A friend wants to OC his 4870, but cant, the clocks just wont stay put. He has to bios flash to OC, how much harder is that than using say Evga's precision tool? Im sorry but that is needless, if nvidia can get it right, why cant AMD?

Yes its XS so you afraid of flashing a bios? How much harder is? flash, reboot, done.

You want esay overclocking, buy Nvidia. But easy it's not funny

[JohnZS]

+ 1

The 4870 will be a fine card when(or wait we're talking about ATI so make that if) they iron out the issues but till then it's got too many niggling problems for a lot of people.

Very true, I am hoping Catalyst 8.7 resolves all the niggling issues, I will be making my purchase either next week or the week after, either 2 HD4870 1GB cards or the GT280GTX Ultra (which is released on the 11th of July, 738Mhz clock, 1666Mhz shader and 2520Mhz memory).

John

[865pe]

source

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13972

[Ch@pS]

Pointed me threads where 4800 died because of temp and after i will see.


Yes its XS so you afraid of flashing a bios? How much harder is? flash, reboot, done.

You want esay overclocking, buy Nvidia. But easy it's not funny

Im not going through all those pages again, are you mad?!?!?!?!?!?

Ill dig up some stuff when im less busy if thats alright

Not afraid, just showing a point of view. You cannot flash inside windows, so its harder to tweak to find max clocks, how many reboots till you finished?

No way, its far better, especially if you're working with a limited dice/LN2 supply and dontwant to spend hours finding max clocks when on nvidia you can find it in mins.

[Caveman787]

I don't see how you can claim the 280 more power friendly but I'm not gonna fight that.

Besides no high end card is power friendly at load and like I said the idle issues with 4000 series aren't fixed yet.

As for the 4000 series over clocking....your comparing a 4% core overclock to what a 20%? Yeah a little unfair since we all know memory clock isn't gonna make a huge difference in FPS.

[L7R]

source

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13972

Wrong link, here's right one:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14224

[Hornet331]

source

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13972

prove that sli/cf was and still is a niche product.