***Asus Rampage III Extreme Owners Thread***

[zoson]

Anandtech has a good writeup I found the other day regarding the issue:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2973/6...-intel-x58-p55

Looks like the Intel controller is only marginally(2.4%~5%) faster at everything except sequential read performance... Essentially a tossup.

Intel’s X58 still has a few tricks left up its sleeve - it manages to be a very high performing 3Gbps SATA controller. Other than in sequential read speed, it’s even faster than Marvell’s 6Gbps controller with a 6Gbps SSD - although not by much.

I'm not even sure if I care so much about 80 vs 78mb/sec random read performance or 137 vs 129mb/sec random write performance, if I'm getting over 100mb/sec more sequential read performance. That's what that review really seems to come down to...

[Cookiesowns]

Agreed. It all comes down to, should I put my normal HDD's on the marvell controler? Or just keep my 120GB ssd on the marvell? ( I don't use the SSD as much as I do on my HDD's ) Since I already have 6 HDD's and the SSD is my 7th, not sure what I should do. Maybe time for a raid controller, haha.

[p3gaz_001]

hi guys... long time

i'd like to ask if this is a "safe" place to buy the Koolance Wb for this main ...

http://www.pexcom.com.au/store/index...oducts_id=5985

thanks a lot!

[slavic1705]

I hope it is OK to post this here, if not please delete it. I seem to have hit a wall on my overclocking and could use some help. Below are my bios settings I can run prime95 for up to at least half hour at 190 with no problems however when I try 195 it crashes within 2 or 3 minutes. I have upped the V-Core a couple of times with no noticeable improvement. I am hoping to get to 5 ghz or 210 BCLK does this seem unreasonable? I am cooling the CPU with a phase change unit and I am currently at about -15F under full load at the EVAP. Unfortunately the on board thermal senor locks up at about 10F and won't report any thing else. The north and south bridge are both cooled with a water block. I have not changed any of the memory settings. I hope to use this for gaming.

i7-950 Bloomfield
CORSAIR XMS 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model CMX6GX3M3B2000C9
CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W

BIOS SETTINGS:

Target CPU Frequency 4560MHz
Target DRAM Frequency 1143MHz

LN2 Mode: Disabled***
QPI Loadline Calibration: Disabled***

Sync Mode [Disabled]
AI Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU level Up [Auto]

CPU Ratio Setting [24.0]
CPU Turbo Power Limit [Disabled]

>CPU Configuration----------------------------
CPU Ratio Setting [24.0]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher [Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetcher [Enabled]
MPS and ACPI MADT ordering [Modern]
Intel(R) Virtualization Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Enabled]
Intel(R) HT Technology [Disabled]
Active Processor Cores [All]
A20M [Disabled]
Intel(R) SpeedStep(TM) Tech [Disabled]

Intel(R) C-STATE Tech [Disabled]



----------------------------------------------

BCLK Frequency [190]
PCIE Frequency [108]
DRAM Frequency [DDR3-1143MHz]
UCLK Frequency [2286Mhz]
QPI Link Data Rate [Slow Mode]

Memory Configuration Protect [Disabled]

CPU Differential Amplitude [Auto]
CPU Clock Skew [Auto]
IOH Clock Skew [Auto]
------------ Extreme Engine Digi+ ------------
Digi+ PWR Mode [X-Power]
PWR Volt. Control [Auto]
Load-Line Calibration [Auto]
CPU Voltege OCP [Enabled]
CPU PWM Frequency [Auto]

Extreme OV [Disabled]*
Extreme OC [Auto]

CPU Voltage 1.343 [1.35000]
CPU PLL Voltage 1.349 [1.88150]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.429 [1.41250]
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.654 [1.61650]

>DRAM REF Voltages----------------------------
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB [Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC [Auto]
----------------------------------------------

IOH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
IOH PCIE Voltage 1.508 [Auto]

ICH Voltage 1.111 [Auto]
ICH PCIE Voltage [Auto]

*QPI Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*IOH Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*DRAM Voltage OCP [Enabled]
*QPI PWM Frequency [Auto]
*IOH PWM Frequency [Auto]
*DRAM PWM Frequency [Auto]

---------- Spread Spectrum Control -----------
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
DRAM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]



***on-board jumper dependant

[zoson]

Spent all day OCing my new 980x. I think it's decent. Batch is 3013A540. I'm running it at 4.4GHz with 1.4375v BIOS. I pushed it up to 4.692GHz last night with 1.593v HT ON!!! I only completed 10 linx loops and it crashed on the 11th though. This is easily the best chip I've owned in every way. woot!
I'm going to try and hit 4.7GHz HT on for a 4.5ghz club submission! Then we'll see what this bad boy can do with HT off.
skuldarin said this batch is bad... seems great to me.

Edit: 4.6GHz HT on with the same voltage most of my old chips needed for 4.5GHz HT off.

[p3gaz_001]

1,59v? that voltage is too high, i just sell out my 980X and got a 990X .... my previous 980X was doing 4.4ghz ht on with 1.41250v

hi guys... long time

i'd like to ask if this is a "safe" place to buy the Koolance Wb for this main ...

http://www.pexcom.com.au/store/index...oducts_id=5985

thanks a lot!

bump.

[zoson]

1,59v? that voltage is too high, i just sell out my 980X and got a 990X .... my previous 980X was doing 4.4ghz ht on with 1.41250v



bump.

For 4.4 ht on I only need 1.4375v. 1.593v is for almost 4.7ghz HT on... Did you even read my post?
You also don't have any entry in the 4.5ghz club, so I have no reference to your stability. Show me a 4.4GHz 20linx 85+GFlop run at 1.4125v. That should be easy to hit with 4.4GHz.

[p3gaz_001]

For 4.4 ht on I only need 1.4375v. 1.593v is for almost 4.7ghz HT on... Did you even read my post?
You also don't have any entry in the 4.5ghz club, so I have no reference to your stability. Show me a 4.4GHz 20linx 85+GFlop run at 1.4125v. That should be easy to hit with 4.4GHz.

sure i did. 1.59v it was referred to 4.7ghz. i do not have 980X no more, i've got an 990X did you read my post too?

[xarot]

zoson you should try 990X

[zoson]

sure i did. 1.59v it was referred to 4.7ghz. i do not have 980X no more, i've got an 990X did you read my post too?

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, as even with a 990x you're going to need 1.5+v for 4.7+GHz with true stability an performance. Have you ever even looked at the 4.5GHz club? Do you even know how to correctly stress test your machine? At 4693MHz I get ~90GFlops. That's higher than _any_ person on the 4.5GHz club with HT enabled.

zoson you should try 990X

If you guys are so certain 990x is the cure, show me your 4.7GHz+ overclock with HT enabled ~90GFlops. Both of you. Otherwise, you should work on your own skills before making incorrect statements. This 980x is probably better than most 990x's out there.

[xarot]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, as even with a 990x you're going to need 1.5+v for 4.7+GHz with true stability an performance. Have you ever even looked at the 4.5GHz club? Do you even know how to correctly stress test your machine? At 4693MHz I get ~90GFlops. That's higher than _any_ person on the 4.5GHz club with HT enabled.


If you guys are so certain 990x is the cure, show me your 4.7GHz+ overclock with HT enabled ~90GFlops. Both of you. Otherwise, you should work on your own skills before making incorrect statements. This 980x is probably better than most 990x's out there.

Well you are right, I cannot hit even 4.7 because I use air cooling so I don't really know about that. I don't know if 990X is better when you pass the 4.5 mark, the best my 990X did was 4.5 ht off 1.368 V and ht on under 1.4 V and stopped there.

Other than that, have I offended you in some way? My post was to suggest to try 990X since you have got another 980X, but yeah, I really don't know if 990X is better at those clocks. How much do you know of me to lecture me of my skills? You should check your attitude. Have a nice day.

[p3gaz_001]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, as even with a 990x you're going to need 1.5+v for 4.7+GHz with true stability an performance. Have you ever even looked at the 4.5GHz club? Do you even know how to correctly stress test your machine? At 4693MHz I get ~90GFlops. That's higher than _any_ person on the 4.5GHz club with HT enabled.


If you guys are so certain 990x is the cure, show me your 4.7GHz+ overclock with HT enabled ~90GFlops. Both of you. Otherwise, you should work on your own skills before making incorrect statements. This 980x is probably better than most 990x's out there.

first of all you need to cool down, personally i did not offend you to let you write such things, and before going on, i think that we do not even need to talk much if you take advices like offenses, i did not say i'm an overclock guru and you are a *ick on it ... so watch your words next time.

[claydough]

The ASUS team on their ROG REIII forum infer that the next extreme rampage will be:

Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS
New board is here...lol Soon as we can release info we will, for now I stand by what I said in my initial post. I been in this game a long time and this thing is head and shoulders over anything I have played with.

http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showth...-Rampage/page2

was in response to my query which I am cross-posting here in hopes that some-one will tell me that
my numbers/logic/references are wrong and that I will indeed need to empty my wallet fer the next big Rampage:

top secret information

Our spies r hiding in between yer drywall! :p
wit nuthin' but a feeding tube and a camera:


Haven't read anything about an "Extreme" "Black" enthusiast line for Ivy bridge yet.
All the preview articles point to modest cpu gains but better GPU empowerment.
Like: faster encoding, triple monitor support and 4kX4k resolutions.
However, enthusiasts will probably wanna OC kepler/maxwell in their PCI-E 3 instead.
Additionally, Bench addicts want higher cpu scores and CG artists ( self included ) ultimately want
as many threads for overclocked graphic rendering in Autodesk and Photoshop.
I guess it will be awhile till an extreme 12/16?/128?? threaded ivy "extreme" cpu comes out?

In which case I am betting that the next best thing will be an x79 motherboard? Seriously doubt that
the Asus ROG line will not have an "LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge-E( extreme )" home for Intel's
flagship 6 Core i7-3960X

( in addition to native USB 3.0, I wonder if there will be any bolt action yet? )

That could be very nice... also ( hopefully ) with mebbe a "stable" 6GBs RAID solution "included"?
could be a Gigabyte/MSI killing bombshell.

On the other hand, for a **personal Highend Content Creation uber nerd solution...
the numbers of both i7-2600k and i7-3960X are still not impressive enough compared to
what my current R3E and i7-990x can offer.
Considering what looks like **modest gains for my needs and the $1450 dollar cost of entry on
a REIV / intel-E combination. I will probably have to wait both the sandy-e and first gen Ivy rounds out!
( waiting and hoping for joy in an Ivy "extreme" / RAMPAGE solution. )

**CG werkstation numbers like:

Photoshop


and 3d rendering
( Here the CPU numbers being relevent to my rendering needs )

for ubernerd cg enthusiast needs:

1. Compared to the 6 core AMD solution an i7-990x purchase makes sense as render time is nearly halved!
2. However I would be hard pressed to consider the 10% impovement an i7-3960X gives me worth spending $1450!
3. !! furthermore I am nearly rewarded 20% render times by skipping sandybridge( 2600k ) and sticking to the lga-1366 and a 2 core advantage.

unless there is some kind of "multi-cpu" magic you have cooking like in the concept.
Always fun to see what may come may bench.

[claydough]

In that original Toms article the i7-3960X was not final and I am also wondering for better or
worse what a max stable overclock comparison with i7-9*0x may bring to light?

[zoson]

Well you are right, I cannot hit even 4.7 because I use air cooling so I don't really know about that. I don't know if 990X is better when you pass the 4.5 mark, the best my 990X did was 4.5 ht off 1.368 V and ht on under 1.4 V and stopped there.

Other than that, have I offended you in some way? My post was to suggest to try 990X since you have got another 980X, but yeah, I really don't know if 990X is better at those clocks. How much do you know of me to lecture me of my skills? You should check your attitude. Have a nice day.

Let me clarify it to you then. The 990x is exactly the same as 980x as far as manufacturing process is concerned. Perhaps there are better yields now, but intel only released it, to make people think it's better and spend another $1k. 4.5ghz with 1.4v is very good, but once again... You have not proven your stability. I know this from the last YEAR of watching you post to this thread. You have never posted a result that proves stability. 'Find all posts by xarot'.

first of all you need to cool down, personally i did not offend you to let you write such things, and before going on, i think that we do not even need to talk much if you take advices like offenses, i did not say i'm an overclock guru and you are a *ick on it ... so watch your words next time.

You were offensive. You insulted the OC I was posting without checking the facts. 1.59v for 4.7GHz HT on is very good. Few chips will even do 4.7GHz HT on, period. 'upgrade your cpu' is not advice. It's an insult. Especially if the person you're talking to is outperforming _everyone_ on this forum's high clockspeed/high performance rankings. I hold the lowest clockspeed for 100GFlops. I hold the highest GFlops with HT on, PERIOD. It's like talking to Einstein and telling him E!=MC^2. IT IS INSULTING.

[zoson]

The ASUS team on their ROG REIII forum infer that the next extreme rampage will be:


http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showth...-Rampage/page2

was in response to my query which I am cross-posting here in hopes that some-one will tell me that
my numbers/logic/references are wrong and that I will indeed need to empty my wallet fer the next big Rampage:

The big board above is not a RAMPAGE. It is DANISHUI BAY. It has a 1366 AND a 2011 socket onboard. It is a concept motherboard, and most likely doesn't even work!!!

In that original Toms article the i7-3960X was not final and I am also wondering for better or
worse what a max stable overclock comparison with i7-9*0x may bring to light?

With 9*0x, 'gimme' overclock is 4.2GHz. With 2600k, 'gimme' overclock is 4.4-4.5GHz. I would expect IvyBridge to be very similar in O/C potential as the 2600k. It is the same manufacturing process.

I agree that anyone with LGA1366 hex core should skip LGA2011/Ivy completely. It is not worth it.

[CryptiK]

For the 990X vs 980X argument, my 990X does 4.5GHz HT on @ 1.336v load, its in the 4.5GHz LinX thread for reference. A decent 990X appears to be no better than a decent 980X, but the best of the best were the late model gem batch 980X's Ive seen. Better than my 990X by maybe 0.03v for 4.5GHz.

[claydough]

The big board above is not a RAMPAGE. It is DANISHUI BAY. It has a 1366 AND a 2011 socket onboard. It is a concept motherboard, and most likely doesn't even work!!!

Yea.. I should have cut that out... It was a joke carried over from a previous thread.
The "Head and Shoulders above" inference Raja was alluding to had nothing to do with that concept.

Unless it does?

unless there is some kind of "multi-cpu" magic you have cooking like in the concept.
Always fun to see what may come may bench.

[xarot]

Let me clarify it to you then. The 990x is exactly the same as 980x as far as manufacturing process is concerned. Perhaps there are better yields now, but intel only released it, to make people think it's better and spend another $1k. 4.5ghz with 1.4v is very good, but once again... You have not proven your stability. I know this from the last YEAR of watching you post to this thread. You have never posted a result that proves stability. 'Find all posts by xarot'.

Yes, I know that. But I think some early retail 980Xs were worse than the ones released close to when 990X was released. I have never owned 980X, but just read from the forums that some needed a little more juice, some even over 1.4 for 4.2 GHz. About one fact you are incorrect, I have proven my 4.5 stability in the 4.5 GHz thread, but with HT off only if that counts, since my temps were already over 80 C. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4798854

And a side note, I really didn't mean to offend you, what would the point be in that? We all are here to help each other from what I understand. It isn't all about anyone's skills if we have better or worse processors at hand, it's pure luck. I wish you good luck with the 980X you have.

And now that we're talking, I just got my brand new R3E Black Edition since my R3E has been in RMA for a month now. So I might have to give 4.5 run HT on later on just for you if everything goes allright, and see if I can get that stability proven.

[zoson]

Yes, I know that. But I think some early retail 980Xs were worse than the ones released close to when 990X was released. I have never owned 980X, but just read from the forums that some needed a little more juice, some even over 1.4 for 4.2 GHz. About one fact you are incorrect, I have proven my 4.5 stability in the 4.5 GHz thread, but with HT off only if that counts, since my temps were already over 80 C. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4798854

And a side note, I really didn't mean to offend you, what would the point be in that? We all are here to help each other from what I understand. It isn't all about anyone's skills if we have better or worse processors at hand, it's pure luck. I wish you good luck with the 980X you have.

And now that we're talking, I just got my brand new R3E Black Edition since my R3E has been in RMA for a month now. So I might have to give 4.5 run HT on later on just for you if everything goes allright, and see if I can get that stability proven.

If you posted your result, and the first two replies were 'upgrade your cpu'... How would you take it? No 'good job' or anything like that. Just 'get a new cpu'. It's very insulting... Especially after already going through two 970's and two 980x's to find this good chip.

HT on is a completely different game. It increases your temps by ~10C, and makes you need a lot more voltage! It is much, much more difficult. I saw your HT off run... But I've been talking, very specifically about HT on. For 4.6GHz, my cpu needs .15v LESS with HT off. Literally HT on needs 1.525v BIOS, and HT off needs only 1.375v BIOS. This is almost exactly the same as your cpu!!!

R3BE isn't going to provide better overclocking, unfortunately. It uses the same power supply as the standard R3E. I think R3BE is designed to be as good as R3E in overclocking, but it also has the very nice features that R3E lacks(nice sound, Killer NIC, etc).

[p3gaz_001]

You were offensive. You insulted the OC I was posting without checking the facts. 1.59v for 4.7GHz HT on is very good. Few chips will even do 4.7GHz HT on, period. 'upgrade your cpu' is not advice. It's an insult. Especially if the person you're talking to is outperforming _everyone_ on this forum's high clockspeed/high performance rankings. I hold the lowest clockspeed for 100GFlops. I hold the highest GFlops with HT on, PERIOD. It's like talking to Einstein and telling him E!=MC^2. IT IS INSULTING.

Offensive? Insulting? and what else? .........srsly i'll pretend as if i didn't read all this nonsense, and I do not want to come back on this argument anymore.

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BTW .... i'm good to go ... i just need to adjust few things to push up those Gflops (if that is usefull to join the 4.5ghz club.)

[donmarkoni]

... I hold the lowest clockspeed for 100GFlops. ...

I feel obliged to challenge you on that.

donmarkoni | i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 4560MHz - 100GFLOPS vs. zoson | Core i7 970 [6C 6T] @ 4611.0MHz - 100GFLOPS

... I hold the highest GFlops with HT on, PERIOD. ...

I'll try to challenge you on this too, but can't find result you're referring to.

[zoson]

Offensive? Insulting? and what else? .........srsly i'll pretend as if i didn't read all this nonsense, and I do not want to come back on this argument anymore.

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BTW .... i'm good to go ... i just need to adjust few things to push up those Gflops (if that is usefull to join the 4.5ghz club.)

*snipped image*

Go ahead and post a result like that in the 4.5GHz club and see how fast you get laughed off the forum. That's a total garbage result. 3 loops? You need 20. Not to mention 56GFlops? LOL. You need a lot more than 'adjust a few things' to make your submission valid. If you update your linpack binaries, I doubt you'll even be able to complete one loop at that speed/voltage.

I feel obliged to challenge you on that.

donmarkoni | i7 980X [6C 6T] @ 4560MHz - 100GFLOPS vs. zoson | Core i7 970 [6C 6T] @ 4611.0MHz - 100GFLOPS

*snipped image*

I'll try to challenge you on this too, but can't find result you're referring to.

VERY nice result don. Only a few people have earned my respect on this forum. You got it a long time ago. Looks like I'll have to juice up my QPI voltage on my new chip so I can get 4ghz uncore and become the 100GFlop champion again.

I didn't submit my HT on result to the 4.5GHz club yet... It's only at 4.6GHz right now:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4960038

I was about 98% stable at 4.693Ghz and pushing ~90GFlops. I could do 16 loops before it would error. My goal for the weekend is a full 4.7GHz with >90GFlops

[p3gaz_001]

Go ahead and post a result like that in the 4.5GHz club and see how fast you get laughed off the forum. That's a total garbage result. 3 loops? You need 20. Not to mention 56GFlops? LOL. You need a lot more than 'adjust a few things' to make your submission valid. If you update your linpack binaries, I doubt you'll even be able to complete one loop at that speed/voltage.

linx binaries are updated .... now please stop trolling, since i'm not doing that on you , next troll post i'll be reporting you

edit: let me go ahead, starting with reporting your low behaviour.

[zoson]

linx binaries are updated .... now please stop trolling, since i'm not doing that on you , next troll post i'll be reporting you

edit: let me go ahead, starting with reporting your low behaviour.

Go right ahead. They'll just see you posting flamebait and you'll get disciplined. I explained to you why you were offensive, and you didn't apologize, you just went on and were even more offensive.

Back up what you say with results, or you shouldn't be saying anything... because you don't know anything.