Well said.Originally Posted by JohnZS
Well said.
since the leaked prices are from SKU which will never exist and the benches show clearly that it is just a deneb afterall i suppose you are really that dissapointed that there is no enthousiast level performance .....
typical forum avarage joe desktop users: statements based on hypes-rumors and useless leaks.
Those who want to know more about new stuff should read more on the LIano launch right now, it is very near launch and there are leaks of retail SKU already i.s.o this B0 useless performance compare.
Last edited by duploxxx; 06-12-2011 at 09:15 AM.
TBH there should never have been a video, it a little thing called NDA. If your not under NDA theres another little thing called respect and trust.
You respect the fact that a company wishes a product to remain NDA and they trust you will adhere to that.
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Since it's not realistic that X8 Orochi is slower than Deneb,let alone Thuban,there is no reason to take these benchmarks seriously.If you look what that fool obr posted few days ago(yes,he breached NDA again),the scores are magically going up now. B1 Orochi he has now performs around 25-50% better than Thuban,instead of being slower.By the time we get to launch,I bet we will be seeing regular 40-50% across the board.This will make Zambezi a real enthusiast chip,in the ballpark of 990x.
"The more leaks are posted, the more IPC increases."
You already broke NDA...why not some B1 tests now?
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All I'm gonna say is that B0 Truecrypt results on Chiphell aren't bad.
But again you guys just dismissed Truecrypt so....
Not to mention the fact that the "leaked prices" were for lots of 1k units, aka distributor's cost.since the leaked prices are from SKU which will never exist and the benches show clearly that it is just a deneb afterall i suppose you are really that dissapointed that there is no enthousiast level performance ....
typical forum avarage joe desktop users: statements based on hypes-rumors and useless leaks.
Those who want to know more about new stuff should read more on the LIano launch right now, it is very near launch and there are leaks of retail SKU already i.s.o this B0 useless performance compare.
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no really??? i thought that was what you were going for??? you have been told in this thread many times its a B0 stepping chip you had, but you keep on updating your ytube vids... i hope when you get a B1 or B2 stepping chip you will at least give it the same treatment.
Why talk to him that way? Hi is just trying to share what info he has on something allot of people are waiting for. He never claimed his results represent those of a retail chip.
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G0ldBr1ck: I am with you on this, its better knowing the performance even if its just B0, than not knowing anything.
Looks like a new sig line! :P"The more leaks are posted, the more IPC increases."
God, those B0 results are really low ...
AMD seems to face problems ....
I'd wait for the retail stepping review/s to make up my mind about it.
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No.God, those B0 results are really low ...
AMD seems to face problems ....
I'm closing this thread for the following reasons:
1. The video is clearly of an early ES chip, which is known not to be representative of retail speed
2. Every post past #1 has been speculation, fanboyism, or rehashing of the statement in #1
3. We don't want to get a rep as a forum that enjoys breaking NDA's with any vendors
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