Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
If i understand you right, any new architecture (even a GF104) should be considered as a new generation. It's wrong, you need a new level of performance/power (that usually requires a shrink) to call it a new generation. At least, as the minimum requirement, you need to beat the 5870 to call it 6870. Otherwise it's a fake generation.

Changing drivers is a problem created by driver development team, and it shouldn't be used as an excuse for creating number-confusion and disappointments.
your not understanding me right then

read the last part of my reply to you
"i really didnt want to get into an argument about the name given to a 6870, i only made that reply to point out it could not have been called a 58xx"

6870 has better perf per watt and perf per mm2 and is around the same performance as a 5800s, it clearly cannot be called a 57xx or 58xx or 59xx. so it has to be 6xxx. which number under 6xxx i honestly do not care, and i will not get into a discussion about it, because its 99% subjective and everyone has their own opinion and i let them have it.