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    Quote Originally Posted by savantu View Post
    Nice to know you read Intel's invest boards. Btw, your reply also speaks volumes about your professionalism since you attack the speaker and not his arguments.

    You claim you have experience in IC design. Do you agree or disagree with Paul's assesement, irrespective of where his preferences lie ? You can also decline if you believe your cannot make this judgement based on your experience. Let's keep the signal up and noise down. Stick to the facts.

    Let's get the fact straight. AMD 32nm products are delayed because GF has problems with the 32nm process. ( hardly unexpected given their SOI+gate 1st aproach )
    Informal posts a comment about slide 17 from the GF presentation regarding Freq distribution of the parts and considers it evidence of a good process since most parts hit N+2 frequency. ( N being the expected median ).
    At first I believed that too, as amateur I thought : " What's the fuss with GF 32nm since it yields above target bins ? " Then I saw a post by Paul who has 30 years experience in IC, both analog and digital, holds several patents for memories,etc and he explained clearly things aren't right.
    Distribution should follow a gaussian pattern with a bell centered around the median.
    And then you and Hans come and snide about everything but the actual argument. Target the argument and not the messenger rings a bell ?
    Well my friend, anyone from an opposition is hardly someone you would base your facts on. He is no god, plus works for Intel and thus has enough of a reason/ motive to spread FUD on a competitor and their work. Given that he doesn't work for AMD or GloFo or any associated companies, i wouldn't think he has much idea about the state of the process and its development at GloFo. One can make an educated guess, but that is what it remains and going forward should be treated as such.
    Last edited by tifosi; 09-07-2010 at 01:57 AM.

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