Geforce GTS 450 appears on shelves

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sorry, but all this "x and y arent competing so dont compare them" is making me sick... thats what the manufacturers want you to think, but thats not the case...

you CANT launch a part that is barely faster than a 1-2 year old part, for a price that is notably higher than the previous one... it doesnt matter if the price had been this low for the previous product since it launched or only dropped recently... WHO CARES? :P

a new part has to be faster or cheaper, and ideally both...
if a product doesnt get there, then why should people buy it? cause its new? thats all?

Wait a sec while I put on my tinfoil hat.

Seriously, you can talk until you are blue in the face about what manufacturers "should" do but it doesn't mean a darn thing. The reality is that companies in every industry do this. Ford, Texas Instruments, AMD, Intel, Toyota, clothing retailers, heck even Tupperware jacks up their prices when they add features between one product generation and the next. The difference between the last generation and this one is huge from a feature MARKETING standpoint: DX11. No, there aren't that many games with it but sine when has that stopped advertising?

I'm not sayings this is right or wrong but it's the reality of the situation. In addition to that, you CANNOT compare the launch price of a NEW product to the clearance price of the last generation. Launch MSRP versus launch MSRP is what you should be looking at.

I should also remind you that once again you are basing your statements on rumors. Price wise and performance-wise especially considering the final release drivers for the card have not been finalized.