Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post



It really depends on which way you look at things. Pre release drivers are sent out and then months later, there are new games out. So naturally, more recent drivers will perform better in newer games versus drivers that were released months ago. It all comes down to optimizations. Then again, there are those drivers that totally break functionality with a game (I remember a particular instance with NVIDIA drivers and MII: Total War). And yes, they are facts.
Basically we are saying the same thing here, the newer drivers help a lot in newer games as they have added optimizations. Whether or not there will be issues in older games is yet to be seen. And yes, those are facts


Quote Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post

You were talking to me about not posting facts and then you go and post a totally unsubstantiated rumor. Every point I posted came directly from the mouths of ATI's board partners, not some random internet rumor. I don't even need to quote them to back myself up. MSI, XFX, ASUS, PowerColor, etc. have all clocked their highest-end HD 5870 cards below 925Mhz and that should say something.
I dont care if you post rumors, that's all there really is about fermi at this point. It's when you post speculation, and then say it's facts. If you look, I clearly said mine was a rumor. And yes, I have seen the OC 5870s are currently set at 925Mhz or so, but with a improved revision, there's no reason it couldn't be 975 or 1000Mhz. that's only a 5-8% increase so not out of the question.

Just for comparison, the Overclocked versions of the 4870 were usually around 775 when the 4890 came in at 850Mhz. I don't know how you are so sure it won't be the same way with the 5870.

Just like B1 fermi could be 40 - 50Mhz faster than A3, don't say it's ridiculous when it's entirely possible.