The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

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I've got a bit of time to kill before we go out to dinner....so I am about to pull a Saaya. Sorry in advance.

None of those are facts though, it's still speculation. The new catalyst drivers are a big improvement over launch drivers, but most review sites won't take the time to re-review the cards. Once the initial results are in, I have rarely seen an update across the board for new drivers.

It really depends on which way you look at things. Pre release drivers are sent out and then months later, there are new games out. So naturally, more recent drivers will perform better in newer games versus drivers that were released months ago. It all comes down to optimizations. Then again, there are those drivers that totally break functionality with a game (I remember a particular instance with NVIDIA drivers and MII: Total War). And yes, they are facts.

The next revision of cypress has been rumored to clock very well, (I know, just a rumor, but the same as what you have been saying) so it's not out of the realm of possibility that 1Ghz cards are on the horizon.

You were talking to me about not posting facts and then you go and post a totally unsubstantiated rumor. Every point I posted came directly from the mouths of ATI's board partners, not some random internet rumor. I don't even need to quote them to back myself up. MSI, XFX, ASUS, PowerColor, etc. have all clocked their highest-end HD 5870 cards below 925Mhz and that should say something.

That one i dont get,for one i live in a pretty small and poor country,i can order HD5970 now and have it shipped in 24hrs.Its been like this for months now,the cards are very high end, so there arent alot of them,but not because of lack of them, but retaileres dont wanna stock much of them,cos they sell tiny amount of them,and every price fluctuation can cost them more then they make on them.

I am sure there are exceptions due to limited demand in some countries versus the allocation, etc. However, from where I am standing if I wanted to go out and but a HD 5970 right now from one of the large NA retailers (Newegg, NCIX, ZipZoomFly, Amazon) I can find two a ZZF retailing for EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS EACH. The other retailers are all MIA for stock.

This bit seems skewed too, there will be many flavours of 5870 2GB,not just eyefinity edition.And using word "excessively",so what ,nvidias 470 and 480 wont be priced "excessively" too if they offer comparable performance ?

Other than the Eyefinity Edition, all other 2GB ATI cards will be manufacturer-specific and usually attached to high-end special edition cards like the Matrix.

i dont think its impossible to buy a 5970 if you want to buy one... availability is low, but isnt that because there isnt that high of a demand for it?
and why are you comparing the 480 with the 5970? and then mention availability? so you think the 480 will be widely available? seriously?

Read it again.

Basically what I am saying is that if the GTX 480 bridges the performance gap between the HD 5870 and HD 5970, NVIDIA can initially price it quite high simply because there will be a sudden influx of GTX 480s into the market while HD 5970s are very rare. I'm not saying that is good for consumers but it would be good for NVIDIA's bottom line.