No offense taken. It's just that I know silicon schedules. I know the milestones to ~ the end of 2011 at this point. I know Bulldozer schedules well and don't really care to know the follow on product's schedules because that is outside of my horizon.

The earliest silicon comes in with ~1-2 wafers worth of product. These are extremely valuable and have the highest security. A company is going to know exactly where every one of them is (early silicon is always locked away in a lab). They are all internal, they don't go to partners. Highest scrutiny.

When you get to EVT silicon, now, you are building ~1000 or so units. Could one or two get into the wrong hands? Sure. Do these go outside of the company? Yes.

EVT is generally ~6 months prior to launch. If I am launching in 2011, there is pretty good odds that I am not at EVT level silicon, right? So, IF I had silicon (not confirming or denying), it would be locked away in the highest security internal lab, only a few folks would have access to it, and it would all be accounted for. At that point it is critical that every single piece is either in a system, or a tester, not just laying around. People would notice one missing and it would be a big deal.

Yesterday I was in the power lab (watch for a video in the future) and there were plenty of Magny Cours laying around. I picked one up out of the tray for the video. That would never happen with Bulldozer. I doubt they would even let me in the lab, I have no business in there; pretty sure my badge wouldn't work