Quote Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
Well, I work for AMD and i can tell you that you don't have a bulldozer system running in front of you.

And I don't recall saying that there will not be 6-core desktops. What I said was Istanbul is a server die and will not be a desktop die.

As you are probably aware I am a server guy so I don't comment on desktop plans. I just happed to know that they were not taking our die and that Istanbul was going to remain server only.

Thuban does not use server die. It has features that we don't have and we have features that they don't have.
excuse me, but if amd really created a seperate die for desktop 6core chips they are plain stupid... sorry, but seriously...
with the limited rnd money they have i HIGHLY doubt they use different silicon for server and desktop 6core chips... it makes no sense at all as the differences in silicon are tiny :P

i know that both amd and intel dont want customers to think desktop and server parts are actually the same with a different sticker on the box for obvious reasons... but come on...

Quote Originally Posted by JF-AMD View Post
Maybe he is talking about Magny Cours, that is in production now and lots of people have them in their hands....


Screenshots can be faked. Instead, post a picture of the bulldozer processor itself. Every processor we have has the markings on the top.

Pre-production parts have a special model number that, unless you actually had one in your hands, you probably couldn't guess.

The old barcelona I have sitting on my desk at work isn't an "OS23xxxxxxx" model number, IIRC it is something like "ZVX140xxxxx"

So, pictures please. Or, if you are not comfortable posting pictures, give me the OPN on the lid.

I can guarantee, with very high accuracy, that you will not have that number.
why would he do that? so he exposes himself or his source and can be legally prosecuted? who cares about model and serial numbers?

and it wouldnt make sense if amd already had bulldozer silicon but wouldnt share it with their close partners/customers... and amd said they already had working samples in their labs and didnt they even mention they were shipping samples to customers?