Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

**PlatoonSgtElias** · 12-25-2009, 12:47 PM

Any tips on what voltages to use on ICH, IOH, QPI VTT for 24\7 on 4-4.4GHz
And does anyone know why the TURBO cuts off when going past 235bclk?

**pr@$r1g** · 12-25-2009, 06:18 PM

^ @ PlatoonSgtElias
regarding ur sig....
are u using 700W Seasonic M12 Modular for all that ? .........
then some PICS PL................

**PlatoonSgtElias** · 12-25-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by pr@$r1g

^ @ PlatoonSgtElias
regarding ur sig....
are u using 700W Seasonic M12 Modular for all that ? .........
then some PICS PL................

Whats so special about that? The PC takes just over 370w full load, with 2x295 it took little over 575W-s in full load. Idles around 230w.
meh heres some pics:

Anyway, im still searching what is the problem that TURBO drops off after 235bclk

**pr@$r1g** · 12-26-2009, 01:24 AM

^ Are u sure?
It just takes only 370w @ full load only if u run them @ default clocks ....
If not Buddy ur calculations are wrong ,Bcoz my system(u can see my sig.)
It takes about 300w idle & 500w full load.......
Measured ur wattage with any instrument or ur own calculation ....

No offense

anyway nice rig man ,nice & clean

**PlatoonSgtElias** · 12-26-2009, 02:39 AM

Measured with a wattmeter!
Anyway, I got a Giga Extreme today, gonna get this mobo modded too, see if this one works better then the UD5

**RCG_Bex** · 12-26-2009, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by pr@$r1g

^ @ PlatoonSgtElias
regarding ur sig....
are u using 700W Seasonic M12 Modular for all that ? .........
then some PICS PL................

Mines running on a 650W at the moment cause my Silverstone 850W just kicked the bucket

~Bex

**pr@$r1g** · 12-26-2009, 07:14 AM

So we can get more juice from a low watt PSU instead of buying a high watt PSU ...........

@ PlatoonSgtElias
Ok if u Measured with a wattmeter! ,No prob ...
Myself just being curious ........

for extreme .......

@ bex
regarding ur sig......
so many bench's & #1 UK Female OCer too.
thats what's called Beauty with Intelligence......................

Everybody has there spl. interests ....
I dont think what boys can do girls cant,it solely depends on there interest............

**mudkip** · 12-26-2009, 09:30 AM

lmao@ people with ridiculously high watt consumption.

Buy a REAL energy meter. most of them are totally inaccurate.

**rge** · 12-26-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by mudkip

lmao@ people with ridiculously high watt consumption.

Buy a REAL energy meter. most of them are totally inaccurate.

Most of the cheap kill o watt meters publish an accuracy of within 1% or better. I can plug mine up to a 200 Watt lamp, with 200W bulb and kow meter reads 197W. Same for several other appliances of known wattage, all register within 1-2% accuracy.

Here is someone who did an independent review of cheap $20 kow meter, again found accuracy within 1% comparing to known wattages.
http://www.safehomeproducts.com/shp2...ter_Report.pdf

Here is another from Johnny guru forum using cheap kow meter compared to Valhalla Scientific 2101 Digital Power Analyzer (~$650 and supposed accuracy to .2%), again cheap kow meter tested accuracy ranged from 0 to 3%.

Sure they are not acceptable for the power company in terms of accuracy, but if my kow meter says I am pulling 650W from wall, it isnt going to be more than 10-20W off.

But since I am not planning on using this info to dispute the power company bills, I can accept 1-3% error. Even 10% error, which never have seen would still mean at 650W, not more than 65W off.

When you say these are so inaccurate, what percentage, and where are you getting your information? Can I see the study, which kow meter, when it was done?

**RCG_Bex** · 12-26-2009, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by pr@$r1g

@ bex
regarding ur sig......
so many bench's & #1 UK Female OCer too.
thats what's called Beauty with Intelligence......................

Everybody has there spl. interests ....
I dont think what boys can do girls cant,it solely depends on there interest............

1. I'm NOT the #1 UK Female OC'er officially... hence the "?"
2. You'd be suprised the comments I get for turning up at LAN and then pwning people at COD4

3. The number of jaws been broken and second even third looks I get when I give OC'ing input suggestions
4. I have neither? Just look at my avatar for crying out loud - a drunken Scot

~Bex

PS. I just ran out of power! *Face palm* GOD DAMNIT STUPID BROKEN 850W PSU! WANT TO GET 4.7GHZ!!!!

**pr@$r1g** · 12-26-2009, 05:58 PM

^^^ Ok gr8 ,but u can be !
& best of luck 4 ur future ..............

@ rge & mudkip

those are not kill o watt ,those are hole in pocket for watt
650$ man ,those pricey one .............
I check with my ups which handles all my load ..I have one ups for my LCD & one for my CPU ...there are some LED's which show how much i consume ...... that's all

Is there any way i can check my wattage through voltmeter ..........

**DavyBoy** · 12-27-2009, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by PlatoonSgtElias

snip

Is there a reason why you have got that massive length of tubing going from the CPU to GPU block?

Your tubing layout doesn't look very tidy at all imo..

**PlatoonSgtElias** · 12-27-2009, 03:41 PM

try ich and ioh core 1.300v. lower cpu volt to 1.375 and go up from there. use vtt volt of 1.300

Originally Posted by crapshoot

Hi everybody. I'm new on this forum. Really glad I found it too. I just finished a new build with an Core I7 920 D0 CPU and the Gigabyte EX58-UD5 Motherboard with Bios F9e. It all water cooled too. My full specs are in my sig.

Although I managed to get a stable 4.2Ghz (Turbo boost enabled), I am floored by the voltage requirements I had to set as well as the Idle and Full load temperatures that I'm getting. I was hoping you guys could give me some assistance.

Here are my Bios settings:

Code:

CPU Clock Ratio [20x]
QPI Clock Ratio [X36]
BCLK [200]

Advanced CPU Features
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled [All]
CPU Multi Threading [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT [Disabled]

Uncore & QPI Features 
Uncore Clock Ratio [x17]
Isonchronous Support [Enabled]

Advanced Clock Control
Base Clock (BCLK) Control [Enabled]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) [AUTO]
C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

CPU Clock Drive [ 800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive [ 900mV]
CPU Clock Skew [ 0ps]
IOH Clock Skew [ 0ps]

Performance Enhance [Standard]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.) [Profile1]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) [x8]
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) [Quick]

CAS Latency Time 8 [9]
tRCD 8 [9]
tRP 8 [9]
tRAS 20 [24]
CMD [2]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance [Standard]
Channel Interleaving [Auto]
Rank Interleaving [Auto]

Load Line Calibration [Disabled]
CPU Vcore [1.50V]
QPI/Vtt Voltage [1.520V]
IOH Core [Auto]
DRAM Voltage [1.50V]

Advanced Voltage Control 

CPU PLL 1.800v [Auto]

PCIE 1.500v [Auto]
QPI PLL 1.100v [Auto]
IOH Core 1.100v [Auto]
ICH I/O 1.500v [Auto]
ICH Core 1.1v [Auto]

DRAM Voltage 1.500v [1.50V]
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Because I am new to the Core I7 and X58 platform, I used this guide from Gigabyte

Notice how high he sets the voltages for the Vcore and QPI/VTT !
Well, to get a stable 4.2 GHZ so did I apparently. I tried lower voltages but would get BSOD withing 2 minutes of ORTHOS. I can get a stable 4Ghz at 1.4V with Turbo Boost disabled.

Now here's where I get freaked out. While running Orthos (one instance for each core, 2 threads per instances) at 4.2 GHZ and the above mentioned 1.5V , my core temps jump as high as 79C!!!! That's on freakin' water! Is this normal? And my idle temps again at 1.5 are between 42C and 46C.
With Turbo boost disabled, a vcore of 1.4 my temps idle between 37C and 41C and can reach 71C during Orthos.

This is my third watercooled build and I'm fairly sure that the CPU block is properly seated. I mean it's hard to install the Swiftech GTZ poorly. Could it be the Radiator not performing to specs? On my previous build I had a quad 120mm rad, cooling an OCed E8600 to 4.5 Ghz and a Radeon 4870X2 and my temps idled in the 24C to 28C range and never went above 62 at full load. That's what I'm used to seeing.

Also, I'm confused as to why CPUZ reports a Core Voltage of 1.392 even thought I set it to 1.5V.

Anyway, sorry for the lengthy post. If anyone on here could put in their 2 cents I'd much appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

**Brad8988** · 12-28-2009, 02:27 AM

Well iv been hitting a wall trying to get much over 4.2Ghz. As my CPU will do 4.2Ghz LinX stable with 1.23v i was thinking i must have a bad mobo that just couldnt handle the BLCK. Today though i decided to stick most to auto and have ago finding max BLCK. It turns out it must be my bad clocks and not the hardware or my CPU just needs a massive jump in voltage to raise its speed much over 4.2Ghz. I was surprised by the amount of QPI/Vtt and vcore it needed to run at this BLCK.

Hopefully now i know its capable of 221BLCK that I can get to 4.5Ghz 24/7

**Shocky** · 12-29-2009, 09:16 AM

I hate my i7 920/EX58-UD5 setup, it can't even do 200 BLCK, stuck at 191*21.

**Astennu** · 12-29-2009, 05:15 PM

Today i redit all my tests with the latest F9M Bios.
And i have isolated the problem. What i did:

Flashed the bios in dos with the autoexec.bat. Loaded optimal settings. Left everything stock. System booted:
Then set Uncore Multi 20x = System boots (default)
Then set Uncore Multi 19x = System fails and resets bios
Then set Uncore Multi 18x = System fails and resets bios
Then set Uncore Multi 17x = System fails and resets bios (i used 24/7 on the F7 bios)
Then set Uncore Multi 16x = System fails and resets bios
Then set Uncore Multi 21x = System boots
Then set Uncore Multi 22x = System boots

So it seems everything below stock is locked. And everything above works fine. But i'm running 195 QPI so with 20x muli my Uncore would be 3.9 GHz and i cant get that stable.

I have this problem with all BIOS version from F8 and higher. F6 and F7 work fine.

Is there anyone that has the same problem ? or am i the only one ?

**zalbard** · 12-29-2009, 05:26 PM

Stock Uncore multi is 16x.
Are you sure you mean Uncore?

**RCG_Bex** · 12-30-2009, 05:56 AM

IS TB broken in latest BIOS (not BETA). Doesn't seem to work for me... temps have went mega wierd even with a bad mount... Idles ~45c but load her up and she crys...

But.... I had some lol's today... Not the best but hey - she can boot in and do 32m all day long @ like 1.16v but to get her stable she needed this...

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=915657

~Bex

**Homeless2** · 12-30-2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Shocky

I hate my i7 920/EX58-UD5 setup, it can't even do 200 BLCK, stuck at 191*21.

Try bumping your voltages by quite a bit. I have to increase my vcore by .1 before it will budge past 191x21

**Shocky** · 12-30-2009, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Homeless2

Try bumping your voltages by quite a bit. I have to increase my vcore by .1 before it will budge past 191x21

I'll give that a try but won't heat become a problem then?, I already hit the mid 70's load with 1.325V, at 1.425V I can probably expect low to mid 80's.

**rubber5** · 12-30-2009, 04:38 PM

hi everyone i was wondering if i can run 2x 285s in sli but using the 1st and the 3rd pci-e slot mainly becuse if it in the 1st and 2nd there will be to close for my likeing it says in the instructions that the 3rd slot only runs 8x and not 16x so will one of the cards run half the speed

thanks everyone

(this is an upgrade and not sure if i shuld do it by the way)

**zoob** · 12-30-2009, 06:14 PM

New bios works great with DVID!

Testing out an older chip that I never got around to:

Uncore @ 3200

Apogee GTX+PA120.3+Sflex F+DB-1 pump + poor mount!

**imaolyon** · 12-31-2009, 03:32 AM

hi, ive got a small concern here with my UD5..

The power LED on my casing seems to be blinking under normal operation, while the manual says thie led should stay light up.

googled and people have been saying DES might be the reason behind the blinking power LED, but i've not installed any utilities from the cd yet.

bios of my ud5 is F8e, could it be a bios issue?

**Andrea deluxe** · 12-31-2009, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by imaolyon

hi, ive got a small concern here with my UD5..

The power LED on my casing seems to be blinking under normal operation, while the manual says thie led should stay light up.

googled and people have been saying DES might be the reason behind the blinking power LED, but i've not installed any utilities from the cd yet.

bios of my ud5 is F8e, could it be a bios issue?

flash the f9m bios!
http://europe.giga-byte.com/FileList...58-ud5_f9m.exe