UnOfficial Asus Rampage II Extreme Thread

[JackNaylorPE]

Any ideas as yet on

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3252

[Leeghoofd]

Why do you use 1.56 voltage for the rams ? also when you up the Bclock , ram speed goes up to.. Why not try to relax your ram timings to eg 7-7-7-24 TRFC 88. Set your ram speed yourself and uncore speed to twice the ram speed. For the Link speed set lowest voltage above AUTO

Also 1639 bios dunno bout that, I'm still on 1504 and prett happy camper with that

[reygjabla]

Any ideas as yet on

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3252

Try the settings below but bear in mind that this is not absolute settings for your set up.


CPU configuration
CPU Ratio Setting - 20
C1E Support - Disable
Hardware prefetcher - enable
Adjacent Cache line prefetcher - enable
Intel Virtualization tech - enable
CPU TM Function - Disable
Execute Disabled bit - enable
Intel HT Technology - enable
Active Processor Cores - all
A20M - disabled
Intel Speedstep tech - Disable
Intel Turbo Mode tech - Disable
Intel C-STATE tech - disabled
BCLK frequency - 200
PCIE frequency - 100
DRAM frequency - DDR3 1603MHz
UCLK frequency - auto
QPI frequency - auto

Dram timing control all auto
1st information - Insert Timings Here in X-X-X-XX format as specified in your particular Memory kit.eg. 8-8-8-24
EPU II phase control - full phase
Load-line calibration - enable
CPU differential amplitude – 800mv
Extreme OV - disabled
CPU Voltage - 1.3
CPU PLL voltage - auto
QPI-Dram voltage - 1.3
IOH voltage - 1.13xx
IOH PCIE voltage - auto
ICH voltage- auto
ICH PCIE voltage - auto
DRAM Bus voltage – 1.64xxv
DRAM REF voltage - auto

Debug mode - string
Keyboard TeakIt comtrol - disabled

CPU spread spectrum -Disable
PCIE spectrum - Disable
CPU clock skew - auto
IOH clock skew - auto

Do a 20 run of Linx and monitor temp using both Core Temp and Real Temp and take a screen shot after the bench so we can try to determine what needs to be done.

[JackNaylorPE]

Why do you use 1.56 voltage for the rams ?

Trying to keep lowest possible....using CPU Level Up feature sets to that figure, so I left it there until I got a failure....turning up from 1.56 does nothing, turning down fails.

Set your ram speed yourself and uncore speed to twice the ram speed.

Have done that....gives same results....I set it to auto, reboot and then look in BIOS and what Auto sets it at ....always comes up with same number as when i do manually.

For the Link speed set lowest voltage above AUTO

Any speeds below what I have listed fail. Again , used CPU level Up feature to see what MoBos choice was.....then try lowering until I hit fail point.

Also 1639 bios dunno bout that, I'm still on 1504 and prett happy camper with that

1539 helped me get a few clicks higher as well as eliminated most of my event viewer errors.

Why not try to relax your ram timings to eg 7-7-7-24 TRFC88

Was holding off on that as yet....always wondered how one goes about selecting relaxed timings....i.e. 6-7-6-18 .... why 7-7-7-24, not 7-8-7-21

the TRF88 is new to me....can you elaborate ?

I was expecting that some BIOS settinsg with which I am unfamiliar would come into play. For example I notice that some peeps disable some of the following:

Intel (R) Virtualization Tech
CPU TM Function
CPU Spread Spectrum
PCIE Spectrum
CPU Clock Skew
IOH Clock Skew

[JackNaylorPE]

Try the settings below but bear in mind that this is not absolute settings for your set up.

So if I have copied everything correctly, my changes are:

C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled] Gonna leave this enabled see explanation below
CPU Voltage 1.3
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.3
IOH Voltage (NB) 1.13
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.64xx
CPU spread spectrum -[Disabled]
PCIE spectrum - [Disabled]

OK I made all the changes....except didn't disable TM function.....this is my son's box (18 years old) and didn't wanna leave him that vulnerable to his own inattention

1st run @ 1.30 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4009 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.288 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 78/75/74/73
coretemp says max temps were 78/74/73/73
Linx finished in 5m 47s w/o errors.

2nd run @ 1.253 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4009 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.24 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 74/72/69/69
coretemp says max temps were 74/70/69/69
Linx finished in 5m 47s w/o errors.

3rd run @ 1.236 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4009 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.232 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 72/68/67/66
coretemp says max temps were 72/68/67/66
Linx finished in 5m 47s w/o errors.

4th run @ 1.230 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4009 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.224 CPU volts
Stopped w/ error at 3:49
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1st run @ 1.30 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4109 MHz @ 205.5 Bus Speed, 3698.7 QPI Link @ 1.288 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 78/76/74/73
coretemp says max temps were 79/75/74/73
Linx finished in 5m 47s w/o errors.

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1st run @ 1.30 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4209 MHz @ 210.5 Bus Speed, 3789.0 QPI Link @ 1.288 CPU volts
Stopped w/ error at 3:49 (prolly memory issue at 1683)

[JackNaylorPE]

Now for my 4.2 GHz profile

1st run @ 1.30 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4209.6 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.288 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 72/68/66/65
coretemp says max temps were 73/68/66/65
Linx finished in 5m 3s w/o errors.

2nd run @ 1.30 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4315.5 MHz @ 205.5 Bus Speed, 3698.0 QPI Link @ 1.288 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 72/69/67/67
coretemp says max temps were 72/69/67/67
Linx finished in 4m 57s w/o errors.

3rd run @ 1.35 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage, 1.3875 QPI DRAM Volatge
CPU-z says 4420.7 MHz @ 210.5 Bus Speed, 3798.0 QPI Link @ 1.344 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 79/77/74/74
coretemp says max temps were 78/77/74/74
Linx finished in 4m 57s w/o errors.

[Leeghoofd]

So what's your conclusion ? Voltage wise you need more Vcore and more Dram voltage ? And maybe looser ram timings to get higher ram speeds ? Testing LinX for 5 mins isn't proof of stability.... It needs to be set at max memory and try at least 10 loops.. Also test Hyperpi 32mb 8 threads.. if all that passes then you are well on your way. I would use ya rigs at 4-4.2 is a nice combo of speed/low voltages and lower temps...

[Salamndar]

So what's your conclusion ? Voltage wise you need more Vcore and more Dram voltage ? And maybe looser ram timings to get higher ram speeds ? Testing LinX for 5 mins isn't proof of stability.... It needs to be set at max memory and try at least 10 loops.. Also test Hyperpi 32mb 8 threads.. if all that passes then you are well on your way. I would use ya rigs at 4-4.2 is a nice combo of speed/low voltages and lower temps...

10 runs are not even enough, I had PCs that would complete 20 runs and would fail on the 21st run, 3Dmark and Super PI.

I say the minimum of 25 runs then trying 3Dmark Vantage next.
5 min. Linx on 4.2 GHz, that's like 2 to 3 runs only.

[reygjabla]

JackNaylorPE

So if I have copied everything correctly, my changes are:

C1E Support [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled] Gonna leave this enabled see explanation below
CPU Voltage 1.3
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage 1.3
IOH Voltage (NB) 1.13
DRAM Bus Voltage 1.64xx
CPU spread spectrum -[Disabled]
PCIE spectrum - [Disabled]

OK I made all the changes....except didn't disable TM function.....this is my son's box (18 years old) and didn't wanna leave him that vulnerable to his own inattention

Is Turbo disabled? As for TM function, as long as you have the "Extreme overclock" set to disable, then you wont be getting into any thermal problems on a normal day to day use even if your son plays 24/7.

3rd run @ 1.236 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4009 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.232 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 72/68/67/66
coretemp says max temps were 72/68/67/66
Linx finished in 5m 47s w/o errors.

Looks like this is your sweet spot for 4.0. You may now try lowering your QPI/DRam voltage.

1st run @ 1.30 BIOS setting for CPU Voltage
CPU-z says 4209.6 MHz @ 200.5 Bus Speed, 3608.3 QPI Link @ 1.288 CPU volts
realtemp says max temps were 72/68/66/65
coretemp says max temps were 73/68/66/65
Linx finished in 5m 3s w/o errors.

I bet, you can still run this stable on a fair bit lower voltage, and, for me, this is as far as I would go for a normal day to day use. Anything higher is simply overkill, unless, of course, your using your rig for heavy encoding and or audio/video editing.

Temp scrennie while running either Linx/IBT/OCCT or Prime95 will be appreciated. By the way, how did feel now that you have finally made it to the 4.xx OC guild?

... and yes, you need to do at least 20-25 runs for either LinX or IBT at max memory and at least 12 hours for either OCCT and Prime 95 small FFT's and Blend to find out maximum heat output and memory stability.

[JackNaylorPE]

So what's your conclusion ? Voltage wise you need more Vcore and more Dram voltage ? And maybe looser ram timings to get higher ram speeds ? Testing LinX for 5 mins isn't proof of stability.... It needs to be set at max memory and try at least 10 loops.. Also test Hyperpi 32mb 8 threads.. if all that passes then you are well on your way. I would use ya rigs at 4-4.2 is a nice combo of speed/low voltages and lower temps...

My procedure is.....

Run Linx till it fails
Whatever works above, run OCCT till it fails
Whatever works above, run prime95 overnight till it fails.

[JackNaylorPE]

Is Turbo disabled?

As i recall it disappears after you disable speed step.

As for TM function, as long as you have the "Extreme overclock" set to disable, then you wont be getting into any thermal problems on a normal day to day use even if your son plays 24/7.

Anything to be gained by it ?

Looks like this is your sweet spot for 4.0. You may now try lowering your QPI/DRam voltage.

Will try

I bet, you can still run this stable on a fair bit lower voltage,

next lower one (1.275) failed.

Temp scrennie while running either Linx/IBT/OCCT or Prime95 will be appreciated.

i remembered to do that after fiddlin around in firefox for a while bit KB disappeared.....had to reboot. Plus I need son around to do the image shack thing.....what OC setting would you like screenied ?

By the way, how did feel now that you have finally made it to the 4.xx OC guild?

Well broke the cherry w/ HT disabled.....but was kinda nice to get in w/o doing that.....not that I can think of something he'll use which needs HT so will probably use the 3.7 setting for 24/365 and the HT disabled 4.3 Ghz one for extreme gaming or whatever.

... and yes, you need to do at least 20-25 runs for either LinX or IBT at max memory and at least 12 hours for either OCCT and Prime 95 small FFT's and Blend to find out maximum heat output and memory stability.

yes, what I have been doing so far is run Linx till I fail....then take that highest OC setting that didn't and run OCCT.....if that passes, run P95 for 8 hours.

Do you know of any source that better explains what the various "disabled' or modified (i.e. differential amplitude) settings do ?

[reygjabla]

I thought this is for your son?

[zsamz_]

My procedure is.....

Run Linx till it fails
Whatever works above, run OCCT till it fails
Whatever works above, run prime95 overnight till it fails.

i've had 1 hour prime stable fail linx in less than 1 min

[anasyakoub]

any body tried turbo key with this board
It don't want to work with me if I want to OC from 2.66 to 4.00 ( it hangs )

[reygjabla]

If you want Turbo, just leave your CPU ratio on "Auto".

[Salamndar]

As i recall it disappears after you disable speed step.



Anything to be gained by it ?



Will try



next lower one (1.275) failed.



i remembered to do that after fiddlin around in firefox for a while bit KB disappeared.....had to reboot. Plus I need son around to do the image shack thing.....what OC setting would you like screenied ?



Well broke the cherry w/ HT disabled.....but was kinda nice to get in w/o doing that.....not that I can think of something he'll use which needs HT so will probably use the 3.7 setting for 24/365 and the HT disabled 4.3 Ghz one for extreme gaming or whatever.



yes, what I have been doing so far is run Linx till I fail....then take that highest OC setting that didn't and run OCCT.....if that passes, run P95 for 8 hours.

Do you know of any source that better explains what the various "disabled' or modified (i.e. differential amplitude) settings do ?

I sould also note that core i7s and x58 combo also run unstable if the voltage is higher than needed.

[JackNaylorPE]

I thought this is for your son?

It is my son's box. What you see on THG is my son using my computer and my THG account before he built his box..

[JackNaylorPE]

i've had 1 hour prime stable fail linx in less than 1 min

That sounds perfectly logical.

1 hour Prime ~ 1 min Linx

12 hours prime ~ 12 min Linx

I do get hotter CPU temps with prime than I do with Linx or OCCT.

Tho shuda said ...run p95 till it does 12 hours or it fails. I haven't had anything (yet) pass OCCT and not P95. I figure if I can get past all 3, that's better than getting past just 1.

[monza1412]

That sounds perfectly logical.

1 hour Prime ~ 1 min Linx

12 hours prime ~ 12 min Linx

is not that logical... you can pass 10 or more minutes of linx and fail in prime large test.
Im afraid there isnt a theorem of what to do to be perfectly stable..

[zsamz_]

is not that logical... you can pass 10 or more minutes of linx and fail in prime large test.
Im afraid there isnt a theorem of what to do to be perfectly stable..

prime much easier to pass

i primed for 1 hour with q9650 and i couldnt pass linx for 30 seconds

[rebelion]

Hello my friends.I have just set up a system with the following specs:
i7 920 d0 , R2E , Dominator gt 6gb 1866 7 8 7 20 , 1050 w psu, wc custom with armor+lcs case. and 5870 sapphire vapor-x.
I overclock it a liitle and i ve got 4ghz i think easy.My temp from everest in full load says 68c with 1.28v.Because i am new in here can you give me a set up for better performance with my mems and all the other things to set iti in my bios 1639.
Please give me if you want optimum option for 4ghz and 4.2ghz or other if you have a better idea.

Thanks a lot

[Salamndar]

OK, I now know what's limiting me to only 210 Bclk on my R2E !!!!
It's the God damn ty R2E that I have, I used the same system on a P6TSE and straight forward I'm able to boot with up to 220Bclk !!!!
I haven't tried more but that should give an indication, now that My R2E is dead due to a broken pin in socket, I should look some where else to couple it with my new 950 CPU.

[PytonOrm]

any new beta bios for Rampage II extreme yet ?

[AceBaran]

OK, I now know what's limiting me to only 210 Bclk on my R2E !!!!
It's the God damn ty R2E that I have, I used the same system on a P6TSE and straight forward I'm able to boot with up to 220Bclk !!!!
I haven't tried more but that should give an indication, now that My R2E is dead due to a broken pin in socket, I should look some where else to couple it with my new 950 CPU.

Same here buddy, i had a i7 965 EE c0 stepping and couldnt get it stable beyond 4400 with 133x33.. and i just need to have my system to run @ 4.5 or higher.. sold 965 bought 920 D0 stepping.. but anything over 210 no mather what volts here and there.. just not doable..

Need rampage III extreme !!!

[Salamndar]

Same here buddy, i had a i7 965 EE c0 stepping and couldnt get it stable beyond 4400 with 133x33.. and i just need to have my system to run @ 4.5 or higher.. sold 965 bought 920 D0 stepping.. but anything over 210 no mather what volts here and there.. just not doable..

Need rampage III extreme !!!

You know what's pathetic, I bought a P6TSE for a friend which is exactly 50% the price of the R2E that I have and it overclocked much better !!

I've ordered a classified on Amazon as they have a nice offer on them.