Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
you guys talk like fermi is just a refresh.. let me remind you its not

dont be surprised how and why fermi is more than twice as fast than 280/285 and faster than the 5000 series
The architecture is indeed an unknown variable in this game called graphic-card-industry. Still, seeing and believing NVIDIA thinks the future is HPC I'm not all that optimistic about Fermi's gaming performance. Who knows how many transistors are there for solely for HPC and GPGPU?

Quote Originally Posted by NapalmV5 View Post
amds gonna need their new 6000 series (whatever theyre going to name) to combat dual fermi.. 5890/5990 refreshes to keep as close as possible
Depending on Fermi's performance. But we don't know much about the 6k-series either, only that AMD/ATI said RV870 will be the last GPU based on R600's architecture. The 6k-series might be "late" to the party as well.

Who knows? Only god (or one of your gods ; if there are gods).