DFI UT X58-T3EH8 continued - Part 2

**stevensl2** · 08-22-2009, 04:36 PM

Hey guys I found out how to Fix the problem, Everything you told me was 100% correct, but I also found out that when you enable "Boot with maximum memory" in msconfig, it screws everything up and only reads 2gb no matter what!

I was so mad at myself cuz i forgot i disabled it, and then I re enabled it and like everything totally messed up, i was like wtf what happen

NO WAY!

Well, anyways. I found out what the problem was, and I also took some pics of my bios settings, lemme know if anythings wrong please =] - please pass this info on to other users. ( Boot with max memory also fk's up DDR2 modules - My Phenom II rig had the same issue )

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**Peen** · 08-22-2009, 05:20 PM

Man your giving it WAY too much voltage for alot of things, and why are you messing with Windows settings memory settings you shouldn't ever need to touch that.

You need to start over, and slowly work your way up on the voltage. Easy way to do it is to knock down the multi a few times and keep the vcore, pll and everything to default. Then start raising your bclk slowly to keep your CPU out of the picture.

You're just messing with voltages you obviously don't know what you're doing and somethings going to end up dead.

**Razer(x)** · 08-22-2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Peen

Man your giving it WAY too much voltage for alot of things, and why are you messing with Windows settings memory settings you shouldn't ever need to touch that.

You need to start over, and slowly work your way up on the voltage. Easy way to do it is to knock down the multi a few times and keep the vcore, pll and everything to default. Then start raising your bclk slowly to keep your CPU out of the picture.

You're just messing with voltages you obviously don't know what you're doing and somethings going to end up dead.

Yeah, i agree with Peen. If you act like that you're gonna break something for sure. Read some guides

**stevensl2** · 08-22-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Razer(x)

Yeah, i agree with Peen. If you act like that you're gonna break something for sure. Read some guides

Where are the multipliers?
Im sorry for failing =[

Please tell me what i should do

(((

**sjakie666** · 08-23-2009, 04:04 AM

@stevensl2

Put everything on default again and start over.
Find your stable vcore first, leaving the Dram @low speeds.
When you find the vcore your stable vcore (5 hours occt or something like that) then move on 2 the memory.
you must up your vvt SLOWLY till it becomes stable.(as i said normally u use vvt 1.3-1.4v for 24/7 but you MAY need higher vvt to stabelize @2000Mhz dram speeds)
Never use cpu pll above 1.8v because it will do nothing or near to nothing (in my exerience)
Your ioh/ich voltage and analog ioh is also to high. near stock should be enough when using 200blck
your ich 1.5v is also to high. i think you could leave it @ stock also.
The dram voltage you can set @ 1.665v if your mem modules are rated 2000mhz 1.65v
you can leave qpi frequency @ auto if your not going higher than 200 blck.

The most important thing off all is that U MUST Read alot to learn about the voltage settings and other settings so you know what you are doing. I gave you a link a few post before and i think it would be good for you to read the topic through. You'll learn alot. Also the first dfi x58 topic here on XS will be great. Maybe some other overclocking guides etc. etc.
Because if you use the voltages the wrong way you'll get instabillity.

hope this will help you!

**eva2000** · 08-23-2009, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by sjakie666

go 2 http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lanparty...n-guide-12855/ and read the whole thread

.

Then you'll understand the basics of overclocking this board,memory and cpu. (thnx 2 eva2000)

You're welcome, also first post in this thread has alot of useful links to read up on too

**sjakie666** · 08-23-2009, 04:22 AM

hehehehe forgot about the first page here lol

**stevensl2** · 08-23-2009, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by sjakie666

@stevensl2

Put everything on default again and start over.
Find your stable vcore first, leaving the Dram @low speeds.
When you find the vcore your stable vcore (5 hours occt or something like that) then move on 2 the memory.
you must up your vvt SLOWLY till it becomes stable.(as i said normally u use vvt 1.3-1.4v for 24/7 but you MAY need higher vvt to stabelize @2000Mhz dram speeds)
Never use cpu pll above 1.8v because it will do nothing or near to nothing (in my exerience)
Your ioh/ich voltage and analog ioh is also to high. near stock should be enough when using 200blck
your ich 1.5v is also to high. i think you could leave it @ stock also.
The dram voltage you can set @ 1.665v if your mem modules are rated 2000mhz 1.65v
you can leave qpi frequency @ auto if your not going higher than 200 blck.

The most important thing off all is that U MUST Read alot to learn about the voltage settings and other settings so you know what you are doing. I gave you a link a few post before and i think it would be good for you to read the topic through. You'll learn alot. Also the first dfi x58 topic here on XS will be great. Maybe some other overclocking guides etc. etc.
Because if you use the voltages the wrong way you'll get instabillity.

hope this will help you!

OMG THANKS!, You're right about the instability, I have crashed like 3 times In dawn of war 2, and I have had random freezes when uploading youtube videos and whatnot. Gets really annoying.

I have done as you said and everything works so far, however I don't run my system 24/7 and plus I have very good cooling.

When I try to adjust to Ram Mhz instead of giving me the exact numbers, it gives me like blck 1 , 2 ,3 and some other stuff like that, why do you get numbers and I get this BS xD ( but of course it shows after i press enter but at like un even numbers, Why isn't it simple like "1600, "1800" 1700" and why is it like numbers like 1923 2948 1038 and so on.

I know it's affected by my CPU multipliers but I dont wanna run at 3ghz! i want an uneven cpu mhz and like 1600 mhz for rams.
( its a psychological thing )

Thanks for any more input

and i will continue messing around with the bios until everything is stable!

**Masami** · 08-23-2009, 06:09 AM

same problem for me...

**Infa** · 08-23-2009, 06:35 AM

You cant get that, its a little bit like s775, but not

to get higher Ram speed, you have to get higher Bclk, you can if you dont want so high cpu klock, lower cpu multiple, put 200 bclk
and then get either 1600 at 8x, 2000 at 10x.

The uneaven ram speed do work ofc, just put like 150bclk, then use maybe 12x multiple.. and ofc if you put 154bclk, you will not get eaven ramspeed..Even bclk becomes even ramspeed, and uneaven will become uneaven.

just try, you dont have to save and exit just to see what the desired speed will be.

EDIT: saw that it looked little weird, but you get it dont ya?

**stevensl2** · 08-23-2009, 07:00 AM

i just keep playing with my settings, I am eventually going to get 4ghz on 1.25v i hope >=), and I'll try 1.65v 2000mhz on rams as well. I hope there is no more freezing after that.

**BieBiep** · 08-23-2009, 07:11 AM

Small tip for people clocking this hog.

On the latest Win7 Beta-Bios and an W3520/i7 920:
If you're going for high bclck with turbo on, put the non-turbo multiplier on 19.

This is greatly going to help your stability, since odd CPU multipliers are more stable than even ones. It helped me closer to stability at 200x21.

It was always stable as long as i put a big load on it, but when i stopped it always crashed going back to 200x20 when idleing. Now it goes to 200x19 and my idle crashes are gone.

BIOS settings:
EIST: Enabled
C-states: Disabled
Turbo/PPM: Enabled
Non Turbo Multi: 19x

**sjakie666** · 08-23-2009, 07:21 AM

@stevensl2 "I have done as you said and everything works so far, however I don't run my system 24/7 and plus I have very good cooling."

by 24/7 i mean daily use. it's verry important to find a fully stable cpu overclock before you go and try the ram out.

to get 1600mhz ram just set blck 200. turn of turbo mode and enable set current limit max. Also set de ram divider @8x and your uncore divider @16x.
AND set your cpu multier to 19x (forgot about that one)

your cpu is clocked @3800mhz this way and your ram is @1600mhz

you can set your ram timings @ 8-8-8-24 and 1.665V
set your VVT to 1.24 (should be enough maybe a little higher but not to much)

The good way of finding the vcore is:

set your Dram diver @ 6x and the uncore @12x so the memory wouldn't be a problem
use occt and set custom time @ 3 houres (should be enough for finding vcore)

if you found your Vcore set the Dram divider back @8x and the uncore divider @16x
When you've done this.
Run OCCT for aprox. 5 houres and hope you won't get any errors. If you do, maybe your Vcore is still a bit to low OR your VVT voltage needs to be a bit higher (max 1.32v should be enough) but i think 1.24v on the VVT should be enough to run 1600mhz. So when you get any errors first raise your vcore a bit.

good luck.

still i think you SHOULD read the threads here on XS or i4memory. Learning the settings yourself is better. Just take a day or 2 to read through guides and forums.

**stevensl2** · 08-23-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by sjakie666

@stevensl2 "I have done as you said and everything works so far, however I don't run my system 24/7 and plus I have very good cooling."

by 24/7 i mean daily use. it's verry important to find a fully stable cpu overclock before you go and try the ram out.

to get 1600mhz ram just set blck 200. turn of turbo mode and enable set current limit max. Also set de ram divider @8x and your uncore divider @16x.
AND set your cpu multier to 19x (forgot about that one)

your cpu is clocked @3800mhz this way and your ram is @1600mhz

you can set your ram timings @ 8-8-8-24 and 1.665V
set your VVT to 1.24 (should be enough maybe a little higher but not to much)

The good way of finding the vcore is:

set your Dram diver @ 6x and the uncore @12x so the memory wouldn't be a problem
use occt and set custom time @ 3 houres (should be enough for finding vcore)

if you found your Vcore set the Dram divider back @8x and the uncore divider @16x
When you've done this.
Run OCCT for aprox. 5 houres and hope you won't get any errors. If you do, maybe your Vcore is still a bit to low OR your VVT voltage needs to be a bit higher (max 1.32v should be enough) but i think 1.24v on the VVT should be enough to run 1600mhz. So when you get any errors first raise your vcore a bit.

good luck.

still i think you SHOULD read the threads here on XS or i4memory. Learning the settings yourself is better. Just take a day or 2 to read through guides and forums.

Ah okay, But when i run occt, it says it cant do the memory thing because i dont have cuda.. i have an 4870x2. right now its at 3.6ghz 1800mhz ram, everything looks pretty stable =\ I ran wPrime 1024, and it was perfect. oh and my cpu voltage is 1.225, my rams at 1.65v, and the VVT for cpu is 1.37 or something, thats as low as it would go without blue screen or restart.

How do i get occt to work when i dont have cuda

without the memory tested as well, its not very accurate )

**cstkl1** · 08-23-2009, 10:54 AM

RTL 53 for 2050 C7..

**sjakie666** · 08-23-2009, 11:01 AM

you can't run cpu:OCCT ??????

**Razer(x)** · 08-23-2009, 02:07 PM

Ok. I wanna try the maximum cpu frequency, any advice to boot with high bclk?

**Infa** · 08-23-2009, 02:22 PM

For me bootup clock is set auto, maybe its just me, but works better that way..
but maybe set it to 190-200 if you are goin high like 230... better use SetFsb in windows, and notch by notch..

**Razer(x)** · 08-23-2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Infa

For me bootup clock is set auto, maybe its just me, but works better that way..
but maybe set it to 190-200 if you are goin high like 230... better use SetFsb in windows, and notch by notch..

Any suggestion about the bios setting?

**Infa** · 08-23-2009, 04:11 PM

ohh.. could be night and day

For me and my cpu, higher IOH voltage is much more needed at high bclk than vtt... did not try to get it mega stable, but for 221 bclk i needed about 1.32vtt and IOH over 1.40...
analogue voltage should not exceed regular IOH voltage..

lets say, start at 210-220 bclk bios, try that at get that to load windows, use 21x multiple, and start higher at voltages than before..
i dont know how your cpu is doin... maybe you better try what it can do for bclk at first, so you know that, easer to take that first, keep usual 8x mem and 16x uncore(maybe lower), most stable and reliable setting..
then you know how much VTT is needed (more or less) then put in the cpu att full multiple and find out what it takes..

**radaja** · 08-23-2009, 05:46 PM

eva2000,i just want to thank you for compiling
all this wealth of information regarding this board.so here
it comes....THANK YOU.
i just got one and im enjoying all your threads,i should
get my cpu this week and i think ill be prepared for my
first go at i7.also when the p55's get released ill be
better prepared to have ,hopefully some success OCing
them.

**OnDborder** · 08-24-2009, 06:51 AM

I've been eye-balling this board for my x58 set-up.
From reading this thread, it looks like the most compatible ram is Corsair?
The GT's are the best from the looks of it.
How 'bout these? XMS3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145242

**batmang** · 08-24-2009, 09:16 AM

^^^ Get a Gigabyte UD5... the T3EH8 is a headache to be honest. Unless your one of those people who likes a challenge in every area, even area's where a challenge is just a waste of time. Sometimes this board makes me sit back and do this face (?_?).

**BieBiep** · 08-24-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by batmang

^^^ Get a Gigabyte UD5... the T3EH8 is a headache to be honest. Unless your one of those people who likes a challenge in every area, even area's where a challenge is just a waste of time. Sometimes this board makes me sit back and do this face (?_?).

LoL!

just because you have to input most settings manually, where the Giga automagically disables/enables some things (which you might even want, like power saving functions!). Doesn't mean this board is a headache!

You just have to actually KNOW what the hell you're doing before you do something like enable/disable C1E or try to lock the multi to 21

Noticed something strange about PWM temps btw:
Sometimes the more stable your CPU is at a certain frequency, the lower your PWM temps are.
I was running LinX yesterday and choosing a LOWER voltage actually meant HIGHER pwm temps.

I'm supposing that this is due to the processor asking for more, and the PWM trying to keep up... or it might be that some voltage settings are just a tad "harder" to pull of than others.
It seems that my board particularly likes 1.344v or 1.360v since sometimes it just keeps drooping to those 2 volts, even though i selected 2 settings higher than the last time it drooped to 1.36.

**Sam_oslo** · 08-24-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by OnDborder

...
How 'bout these? XMS3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145242

I'm very happy with this one, it has been running on DFI @1688HMZ 7-8-7-20 1.65v with great performance and stability for 24/7 use. I have had several benches/tests which you can find earlier in this thread.

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