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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayso View Post
    @Martinm210 - good job man, awesome !!!

    I just want to ask, will be MONSTA enough for a single loop of Q9650@4.32 Ghz, GTX280 and NBMAX and 5-7 Degrees Delta ?? I'm beginning a new project with a ATCS840 and I'm very very interested to have a monsta inside my case :P
    Play around with the PSU calculators and estimate your heat load first. Then you can use the 10C chart to slide up the RPM scale until you match your heat load. This will give you a ballpark on how much fan you will need.

    I always say a 10C delta is average performance, 5C delta is high performance. To look for a 5C Delta, take the Watts numbers on the graph and cut them in half.

    Quote Originally Posted by affiliate13 View Post
    Hi Martin,
    Great info as always, thanks.

    Did TFC mention 140mm Triebwerk models to you at all?
    I think there was talk of them appearing shortly.

    I would be interested to see how they might perform on this radiator.
    They did mention looking into 140's, but I'm not sure exactly when. I think 140's are the way to go on this one, that's why I ordered the Koolance fans to try.

    Quote Originally Posted by shazza View Post
    Excellent review - thanks for the photos too. They really do show the size of this Monsta in comparison to your other rads. (You'll need steel supports when you load your Torture Rack with this guy).
    Thanks, are you telling me the torture rack wasn't design for two 480s and a 360/420 in mind?....lol! Yeah, I'll have to use some aluminum channel or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Great testing as always, Martin

    Big fan of breaking up the RPM vs. W graph by fan as well

    As for the radiator itself, it seems it's a bit of a jack-of-all-trades. Does well at both low RPM and high RPM...but its strength seems to be the middle ground (if you throw in a GTX360/420 on your testbed, it'll become more apparent). Either way though, it's not a miracle worker, "just" really good

    Best thing about all of this, it seems you're slowly starting to creep back into testing more and more
    Yeah, I think it gets it's low/medium strengths from the 140mm frontal area and the high speed strength from the quad thickness. Not the best combination for the sub 1000RPM range though...that's where something thinner or even lower density would make more sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG View Post
    I would personally suggest you keep that testing pace slow though that way you dont get burned and we can all enjoy your excellent results from time to time
    I'm taking a break for a while. I really didn't plan on this one, I was actually more interested in testing the fans, but the rad came with the package. It's like giving my 2 year old a binki and telling her to hold it but don't put it in her mouth. I'm just not physically capable of installing something without testing it first....it's a sickness.

    Quote Originally Posted by eRazorzEDGE View Post
    very well done martin.

    what i find interesting is that with the Monsta only using 3 fans, it almost does as well as a TFC 480 with 4 fans in the "watts dissipated at 10°C delta" graphs...

    Monsta:


    TFC 480 vs. GTX 480:


    i guess it goes to show the "quad thick" approach does have some benefit.
    Yeah, although keep in mind. For starters that first test was with "Water Out" so numbers will be slightly lower on that one if I recalculated...not huge, but some. Also the Monsta is essentially a 140mm frontal area design which generally has the biggest gains with raditors, thickness doesn't really help much at the slow speed side of things, but it does help with the higher speeds.

    I expected the performance to be good with high speed fans, but I really wasn't sure what to think with the low speed considering this frontal area increase.

    Overall, it's like Vapor said, sort of a jack of all. About the same as a PA120.3 around 900RPM and progressively stronger with stronger fans.

    FYI,
    Shane (HESmelaugh) just compared some of his numbers for me. His heat loads are a bit off from mine, but the trend seem to be very consistent. As always, we can't really compare across different test beds, but trends and relative performances should be similar.

    Good stuff, I think we're in the same trend ballpark, that's always reassuring that I didn't completely screw something up..

    My comparison was lacking below 1000RPM, so I would use his for reference.
    Last edited by Martinm210; 06-09-2009 at 11:53 AM.

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