Madness-Murder Jr

[charles_h]

Fantastic job Rocky!

It's been an absolutely pleasure getting to know you these past weeks. Your enthusiasm is infectious and I've really enjoyed following your progress. I always enjoy the calls; as I told you once, you sound like Johnny Cash!

I keep expecting you to break out into song.

Press on indeed.

[hiiyah777]

Many thanks Hiiyah!
I really need to invest in Photoshop to try to catch up with BA and Charles, however I truly appreciate the kudos.
Thanks again, I am trying. I just wish I had sent the the parts out to be powder coated, my mistake due to my impatience.
BTW, have you purchased any scotch?

First off, I love those fish. I love clownfish, they're so beautiful, and I love hearing my daughter say "NEMO!!!"

I'd like to get Photoshop and figure out what can be done to improve pictures. Maybe that's something else I'm missing. I just use raw pictures my camera took. I'm learning more and more!!

I haven't purchased any scotch just yet. Opened a bottle of wine the other night, but that's the only drinking I've done for weeks. Hopefully soon I'll have time to buy a bottle.

[theseeker]

Looking good.

One thing though, I would prefer to see the reservoir bottom tubing going straight down into the bottom part of the case instead of having the the long tube run as shown on the last few pictures above.

Basically, hide the long run down below.

No more drilling for me!

Rocky,
This is coming along great, the acetal blocks really compliment the dark MM sleeving. That blue tubing gets richer looking every time I see it. And to your question of you posting too many pics don't make me have BA bust out the " minimum five pics per post rule".

Thanks John! Glad you like the acetal and the blue. I was actually thinking of getting two acrylic tops but I cannot wait any longer.

I love all the pictures Rocky, especially the "artistic" ones. Great tube routing too, I'm pulling a lot of ideas from your build for some future possibilities.

Thanks Kirk! All I did was to use your ideas and screw them up!

Fantastic job Rocky!

It's been an absolutely pleasure getting to know you these past weeks. Your enthusiasm is infectious and I've really enjoyed following your progress. I always enjoy the calls; as I told you once, you sound like Johnny Cash!

I keep expecting you to break out into song.

Press on indeed.

Thanks Charles and I sing all the time. The feeling is mutual.

First off, I love those fish. I love clownfish, they're so beautiful, and I love hearing my daughter say "NEMO!!!"

I'd like to get Photoshop and figure out what can be done to improve pictures. Maybe that's something else I'm missing. I just use raw pictures my camera took. I'm learning more and more!!

I haven't purchased any scotch just yet. Opened a bottle of wine the other night, but that's the only drinking I've done for weeks. Hopefully soon I'll have time to buy a bottle.

I use raw too and edit them in i photo on my Mac. It has nothing like Photoshop but I just recently got into photography. You need to drink more!

[RickCain]

Excellent build Rocky! Good lord it makes me want to do something new.

[CmB]

I find you usually can get a general idea of how it is. I'm also a fan of Irish Whiskey anyone else ?

I don't know what Irish Whiskey is. Irish Whisky, yes...what is this Irish whiskey you speak of?

[theseeker]

Excellent build Rocky! Good lord it makes me want to do something new.

Many thanks! So do something then I will feel like I have inspired someone

[theseeker]

I played around with the cable management today and it was very interesting and frustrating. I couldn't manage Sigfevers quota of five new pics, so no new photos tonight, just recyclables!
I rerouted the 24 pin through the midplate and it looked good up top.
Unfortunately the 24 pin is almost 22" long (550mm) so I end up with about 18" of wiring in the garage between the Rad, Pump and PSU. Needless to say it could get very crowded down there.
Therefore, I am leaning towards the "snake" in last nights pic, running the 24 upfront and down to the PSU.



I am concerned about messing up the ventilation in the bottom...any thoughts? I will be using a push configuration on the Rad which is a first for me.
I also ordered some new fittings, a rotary elbow for the Rad and I will be using the opposite hole in the front of the midplate for the tubing.



The bottom fitting for the Rad leading to the pump will be a rotary 45 and I have yet to determine the fitting I will use for the pump but it will probably be straight.
I also checked the Res fitting to connect to the Rad and I tried a 45 and a 90.
The 45 looks the best but the 90 may actually work better with the tubing. I won't know for sure until Saturday.
LMK your thoughts, especially about filling up the garage with wires!

PS, If you purchase this Rad know that it is big!!

[PradaG]

how do you feel about cutting down the wire length & repinning w/ some gold connectors?

i think it would look nice if the cables flowed down the hole below the ram w/ the rest of the wires...& If you did re-pin...you have complete control of how the wires flow off of the MB..i.e. some wires prob will be longer than others to attain the flow you want up top & have a nice controlled flow to the PS (silverstone will never know...you just return the PS itself for RMA's, & you can buy a replacement cable for less than $20 should you want to move the ps to another build down the road)

i also note that you have just completed the sleeving so you prob do not want to hear it....just a thought


EDIT

after i just looked @ your pics again...i also noted that the hole that i was talking about sending the wires down might get a little "plugged" up w/ v-card wires

is it possible to route the v-card wires around the back? i also noted you have this painted ...so drilling a 3/4" hole (for gromet) for the connector to fit through is prob not something you want to hear either, but it could easilly be hidden behind the res & would create a different flow of wires off of your v-cards (straight back or up)...or if the cable length to the v-cards is too short you could get some extenders & sleeve them w/ the other .5 psychopacks you have left...but that would be alot of wires going toward the res...looks really are dependent on how you position the holes

[theseeker]

how do you feel about cutting down the wire length & repinning w/ some gold connectors?

i think it would look nice if the cables flowed down the hole below the ram w/ the rest of the wires...& If you did re-pin...you have complete control of how the wires flow off of the MB..i.e. some wires prob will be longer than others to attain the flow you want up top & have a nice controlled flow to the PS (silverstone will never know...you just return the PS itself for RMA's, & you can buy a replacement cable for less than $20 should you want to move the ps to another build down the road)

i also note that you have just completed the sleeving so you prob do not want to hear it....just a thought

Great idea PradaG, but three problems; 1. Too much work 2. Not enough scotch 3. You are correct! I just finished sleeving! BTW, did I mention not enough scotch or patience?

[Snyxxx]

PS, If you purchase this Rad know that it is big!!

From your experience with this build, would you go with a 120.3/120.2 combo like others or keep a 120.4 if you were to do another.

[shazza]

Snyxxx asks a good question.

Also ... do you have any pics of the bottom compartment yet. Curious to see how you've fit everything in there.

Looking great so far. I had to smile at the suggestion of redoing the PSU sleeving ... it hurts to even think about it so soon after completing it. I have a sneaking suspicion someone else will be doing my next one for me

[headala]

I'm always a big fan of having wiring and cables that are 'just enough'; I can frequently be found cutting/shortening my wires to the exact length needed. And then cutting/lengthening my wires when I change something.

[theseeker]

From your experience with this build, would you go with a 120.3/120.2 combo like others or keep a 120.4 if you were to do another.

I would definitely stick with this Rad, that is, as long as it performs well.
The size of it poses some problems but the problems are mainly due to my poor planning. The only thing that I will do differently on the next build is the PSU. I will be using this one in the 1Kw http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...m_power_supply

Snyxxx asks a good question.

Also ... do you have any pics of the bottom compartment yet. Curious to see how you've fit everything in there.

Looking great so far. I had to smile at the suggestion of redoing the PSU sleeving ... it hurts to even think about it so soon after completing it. I have a sneaking suspicion someone else will be doing my next one for me

Thanks Shazza, I sleeve for scotch BTW!
I will post some pics of the garage tomorrow.

I'm always a big fan of having wiring and cables that are 'just enough'; I can frequently be found cutting/shortening my wires to the exact length needed. And then cutting/lengthening my wires when I change something.

Alan, When I snake them as shown there is very little room. I am not ready for the Ninja school of cutting cables! Sleeving is enough for this old dog.
How is the MB?

[headala]

Alan, When I snake them as shown there is very little room. I am not ready for the Ninja school of cutting cables! Sleeving is enough for this old dog.
How is the MB?

Just you wait...you'll be lying in bed at night thinking about all those cables, and then they'll start chasing you and wrapping themselves around you and trying to pull you into EXTRA CABLE HELL! Then you'll wake up in a cold sweat and cut them short.

I still have no idea how the mobo is; I'm still stuck up in North Carolina and then I have to go to Atlanta. Argh, I have ~$1000 in parts sitting at my house waiting to be played with!

[theseeker]

OK Shazza here you go!

The first two pics are shown without the 24 pin so you can get a general idea of the garage....





A couple of closeups.................Just for Shazza, she must be planning something?





Now an overall shot with the sideplate and the 24 pin snake....Yes, I changed it yet again....Madness!



Down below with 24 pin....



And up above........



What about a combo?



The cables will fit nicely in this arrangement without much clutter down below....



As usual a new problem cropped up and will have to move the hammond boxes..... more drilling



As i learned in one of my other hobbies, taking pictures really helps. It shows your mistakes and helps you with the solutions. Not to mention it shows old eyes what they cannot see!
I actually like the look of the 24 pin wires snaking down through the front. After all, with the amount of work that goes into sleeving, you should be able to see your work!
I am getting closer to the finish line but I still have to sleeve the fans and the one molex run. The new BP fittings will be here tomorrow and I should have all of Saturday and Sunday to have more fun!
Now it is time for a scotch or two and possibly six

[shazza]

Thanks, Rocky.

Yep - I like the 24-pin showing as well. I'm still a little confused about the fans and how the airflow is going to work with the giant rad and the PSU ... (but I am easily confused).

[NaeKuh]

rocky if i remember my TJ-07.

i believe you could go under the board because the standoff's was a bit higher.

I think that would give you a cleaner look no?

[theseeker]

Thanks, Rocky.

Yep - I like the 24-pin showing as well. I'm still a little confused about the fans and how the airflow is going to work with the giant rad and the PSU ... (but I am easily confused).

Shazza,
Glad you like the 24 pin.
The four fans will push (I prefer pull) but I will have a great deal of control due to the Aquaero. There is a great amount of open room between the pump and the Rad. This PSU does not give off a great amount of heat unless you really stress it to the max, which is hard to do. By stretching the cables there will be very little air restriction. I am also wiring the fans so that I can control the two fans between the PSU and the Rad separately. Which will allow me to control the fans in a 2x2 configuration.
I also have a 120 on the top and the bottom of my HDD cage which will allow me to pull or push, each controlled separately too! Once again, my Aquaero allows me a graet deal of control. OK I am exhausted now!
I hope this makes sense!

[Snyxxx]

What don't you like about your current PSU and why do you like the one you linked?

The only thing that I will do differently on the next build is the PSU. I will be using this one in the 1Kw http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...m_power_supply

[hiiyah777]

Lookin awesome, Seeker!

I must say, I do agree. With all that time and effort spent sleeving, it's only fair to show it off. But perhaps there's a better way you can run the cables where they're in more of a uniform pattern? It just looks a little uncontrolled the way it is.

Oh and I finally bought some scotch today, although I'm unsure how to drink it, and I'm afraid I won't really like it (I've never been a big fan of whiskeys, lol). I'm such a crowd-pleaser! :p

I bought a little bottle, and I wasn't sure what was good, but I knew I didn't want anything too cheap. I picked up a small bottle of Johnnie Walker Red Label. Should I drink it over ice or is it better warm like a cognac?

[theseeker]

What don't you like about your current PSU and why do you like the one you linked?

The Zeus is a great PSU, just a little too big.
Snyxxx, BTW the soft jaw pliers arrived today. Great tip, many thanks!

Lookin awesome, Seeker!

I must say, I do agree. With all that time and effort spent sleeving, it's only fair to show it off. But perhaps there's a better way you can run the cables where they're in more of a uniform pattern? It just looks a little uncontrolled the way it is.

It is still uncontrolled, but it will be controlled soon!

Oh and I finally bought some scotch today, although I'm unsure how to drink it, and I'm afraid I won't really like it (I've never been a big fan of whiskeys, lol). I'm such a crowd-pleaser! :p

I bought a little bottle, and I wasn't sure what was good, but I knew I didn't want anything too cheap. I picked up a small bottle of Johnnie Walker Red Label. Should I drink it over ice or is it better warm like a cognac?

JWR is better with soda, JWB is great with H20 and JW Blue is best in a glass all by it's lonesome. HTH and thanks for the comments!

[theseeker]

rocky if i remember my TJ-07.

i believe you could go under the board because the standoff's was a bit higher.

I think that would give you a cleaner look no?

NaeKuh,

Yes, I can go under the MB but I have many cables and my MB is inverted.

Rocky

[j.almonte]

Lookin awesome, Seeker!

I must say, I do agree. With all that time and effort spent sleeving, it's only fair to show it off. But perhaps there's a better way you can run the cables where they're in more of a uniform pattern? It just looks a little uncontrolled the way it is.

Oh and I finally bought some scotch today, although I'm unsure how to drink it, and I'm afraid I won't really like it (I've never been a big fan of whiskeys, lol). I'm such a crowd-pleaser! :p

I bought a little bottle, and I wasn't sure what was good, but I knew I didn't want anything too cheap. I picked up a small bottle of Johnnie Walker Red Label. Should I drink it over ice or is it better warm like a cognac?

Ohhh NOOOO!!! dont drink the "Red" plain... it will burn your throat !!!!!

edit: seeker beat on the reply !!

[hiiyah777]

JWR is better with soda, JWB is great with H20 and JW Blue is best in a glass all by it's lonesome. HTH and thanks for the comments!

What kind of soda? Coke?

What's "HTH" mean?

Ohhh NOOOO!!! dont drink the "Red" plain... it will burn your throat !!!!!

edit: seeker beat on the reply !!

Lol, thanks for the heads-up!

[Snyxxx]

Snyxxx, BTW the soft jaw pliers arrived today. Great tip, many thanks!

Great news. Did you order from the web site in the link I sent? I remember you saying something about Home Depot might have them.