DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 - First bench, bios screens etc

[Viss]

Nice one Solar Me board should be here tomorrow

[The-Fox]

Great clocks there solarfall, just saw your numbers at HWBOT and it made me jealous :P
It seems like people with the DFI X58 hit higher bClock or it just a coincidence ?

[eva2000]

im seriously starting to love this board.. i hooked up my cascade today and was able to achieve 230 bus speed.



here is the bios settings that i used if any one else wants to try and beat me

DRAM Timing
Memory Control Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 2048

DRAM Command Rate: AUTO/1N/2N : 1N
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 8
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 8
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 8
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 24
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Row Cycle Time (tRC): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): AUTO

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Disable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.5=================with my Processor
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: disabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.78 =============== with my Memory ( corsair dominator 1600 mhz ddr3 tri kit
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Reduction 15%
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.55 Volt
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Reduction 15%
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.21v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.20v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.7v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 115
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 115
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 115
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Disable
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 20x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: auto
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 223 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 103 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: AUTO
UnCore Frequency: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

sweet stuff makes me want to go back to testing for max bclk instead of 3d benching hehe

got a memset/cpu tweaker screenie for 230bclk ?

[Solarfall]

Nice one Solar Me board should be here tomorrow

im sure you'll love the board once you get the hang of things

Great clocks there solarfall, just saw your numbers at HWBOT and it made me jealous :P
It seems like people with the DFI X58 hit higher bClock or it just a coincidence ?

well seems like the bClock more tweakable with dfi x58 board when compared to the previos dfi boards that i've owned seems like this x58 board is wayyy more easier to work with and its extremely stable too

sweet stuff makes me want to go back to testing for max bclk instead of 3d benching hehe

got a memset/cpu tweaker screenie for 230bclk ?

well not as of now but im gonna tackle the memory overclocking next and see what i can do there.. im sure that there is room to improve the mhz on my dominators

[OUTSIDE]

today is the day...

today... I will have all new rig... I selled my Q6600 G0 /w DK P45-T2RS Plus... one week it was living in my home LOL

Today... arrives... the DFI UT X58 with the i7 920... water cooling components (all from DangerDen)... 3x2GB DDR3-1600 OCZ Platinum (7-7-7-20 1.65v)... Tagan BZ 1100W...

And the old 7800GTX /w 256MB... hahhahaha (she has a beatiful Arctic-Cooling Accelero TwinTurbo)

I want to arrive to 4GHz!!!!

ByE!

[roller11]

I just got my DFI x58 up and running, flashed BIOS to latest (Jan.6) here are some of the problems:

I can't get turbo mode. I enable Intel turbo in BIOS, but all four multi options are greyed out , e.g. "if all cores enabled, x21". When I boot into windows, CPUZ reports I'm at x20 multi, which means no turbo. How do I get the BIOS multis to not be greyed out, and how do I get Turbo to kick in once in windows.

I have configured my voltage and multis in BIOS to be same as my giga UD5 board, but with same settings and components, this board is a terrible OCer compared to my Giga board. Id there a trick I don't know about? my multis are 8/16/36 memory/QPI/uncore.
With the Giga board, it was very straightforward...adjust Vcore and Vtt and set multis and after that, it's just a matter of how good your chip is. But with the DFI, there are a number of mystery settings that I have no idea what they do. There are somethings I like about this board vs the giga but I'll have to send it back if I can't get it to be at least close to the giga in OC.

So in summary, how do I get Turbo mode to kick in, and what is the secret setting to make this board OC correctly?

3x 2GB Patriot 9-9-9 1600 Mhz viper
Tiniq Tower 120

[The Nemesis]

I just got my DFI x58 up and running, flashed BIOS to latest (Jan.6) here are some of the problems:


So in summary, how do I get Turbo mode to kick in, and what is the secret setting to make this board OC correctly?

3x 2GB Patriot 9-9-9 1600 Mhz viper
Tiniq Tower 120

This has been answered so many times in this very thread but once more can't hurt I suppose.

Set EIST to enable under cpu settings as well as turbo mode in bios for turbo mode to work with this board. Also if running vista set to high performance mode.

This board is definitely harder to overclock than my gigabyte was so your not alone.

[jcool]

Guys,

one (for me) important setting that differs from eva's template: "Set VR Current Limit Max" must be set to enable or the CPU drops to non-turbo mult (22x in my case) when priming at 1,5V+. Since eva isn't much for testing stability I guess he just didn't realize

[eva2000]

Guys,

one (for me) important setting that differs from eva's template: "Set VR Current Limit Max" must be set to enable or the CPU drops to non-turbo mult (22x in my case) when priming at 1,5V+. Since eva isn't much for testing stability I guess he just didn't realize

why prime and 1.5+ vcore that's like unecessary torture for a cpu especially for me on air cooling...

there's a huge difference between super pi 32m/3d mark at 1.5+ v vcore versus stress/prime95 at 1.5+ v

my 24/7 on air cooling is 3.8ghz 1.232v or 4.0v at 1.328-1.36v

[kitfit1]

Guys,

one (for me) important setting that differs from eva's template: "Set VR Current Limit Max" must be set to enable or the CPU drops to non-turbo mult (22x in my case) when priming at 1,5V+. Since eva isn't much for testing stability I guess he just didn't realize

No one in thier right mind should even be thinking about running Prime at 1.5v+, unless under very good Phase As eva2000 has said, there is a world of difference between running Super Pi and Prime.

[jcool]

why prime and 1.5+ vcore that's like unecessary torture for a cpu especially for me on air cooling...

there's a huge difference between super pi 32m/3d mark at 1.5+ v vcore versus stress/prime95 at 1.5+ v

my 24/7 on air cooling is 3.8ghz 1.232v or 4.0v at 1.328-1.36v

Sure,

that was just my example. It will drop down from turbo way earlier, as soon as 130W TDP are exceeded. So yeah it applies to all I guess - just set it to enable

No one in thier right mind should even be thinking about running Prime at 1.5v+, unless under very good Phase As eva2000 has said, there is a world of difference between running Super Pi and Prime.

Lol - you do run prime if you want 4,4-4,5Ghz for 24/7 stable clock like me. You can do that if you are on chilled water or phase

[Dami3n]

I have a little issue with my config. I can´t turn off the f.....g pc normally.
This Enermax have a feature that turn on again for a few seconds all the fans when you turn off the pc, but with this dfi works like a reset
Is annoying.

Anyone with Enermax+dfi x58 combo?

[jcool]

Enermax + DFI is a bad combo in general. The Pro82 and Modu82 series work fine, but Liberty/Galaxy/Infinity have known issues with all DFI mobos. :/

[Dami3n]

I know, i had 2 libertys dead with my old nf4 ultra-d, but i thought issues are solved in new generations. Maybe no

[roller11]

This board is definitely harder to overclock than my gigabyte was so your not alone.

I guess "harder" is another way of saying it has inferior AC characteristics. I was hoping that there was a setting somewhere that would magically get this board to the level of the giga, guess not. For example, with vcore=1.36, at 21x192 I get an instant error under prime95. With my giga, I can pass prime at 21x194 and 1.344 volts. I still need to find a voltmeter test point for Vcore, there aren't any obvious ones like on my giga. Until I verify that I am indeed using the same Vcore on both boards, I can't be 100% sure that the DFI really is doing less CPU clk at the same voltage.

[Praz]

I still need to find a voltmeter test point for Vcore, there aren't any obvious ones like on my giga.

Can't get much easier then this.

[MarkJohnson]

OK, I'm going crazy getting three video cards to work nicely. I have a pair of 9800GTX+ and added a 9800GX2 to the mix. I all of a sudden get extremely slow boots (30ish progress scroll bars at boot time).

I'm getting weird issues:

It boots with the second DVI port on the GX2 in slot 1. But switches to 9800GTX+ in slot 2 during progress bar and I have to type my password blond and then it switches back to GX2 (well sometime).

I have big issues with the second 9800GTX+ in slot 3 registering at all. Device manager only show 1 9800GTX along with the two 9800GX2.

I tried unplugging my second monitor from slot 2 and removing my vga dummy plugs so it registers only the 9800GX2's second port, but it still picks up the 9800GTX+ in the second port and nvidia's control panel there is a standard vga monitor plugged into it.

This is sure getting whacky. Right now I just finished reinstalling vista ult x64 and hoping it smoothes out for me. so far it shows 2 std. vga cards installed. I'm guessing both 9800GX2 ports.

Any tips for getting all three vid ports going at once (non-sli)
-=Mark=-

[roller11]

Previously I had reported that my x58 board was a poor OCer. I stumbled upon the problem, it was a bad DRAM setting. In auto, the bios was setting the RAM to 7-7-7, which is way out of spec. I changed to correct 9-9-9 timing and reran my OC test. I had already determined that the same components in my other mobo, a giga ud5, passed prime95 up to 21x194 or 4074Mhz CPU clk. For reference, we're talking:
i7 920 batch 3837A728
Patriot viper RAM, 3x2GB
Tuniq Tower 120, 2100 RPM fan, 75F ambient temp
Vcore 1.356V---this is not BIOS or CPUZ, this is measured with a digital VOM while loaded by Prime95
HT disabled

After correcting the DRAM settings and making sure all other multipliers and settings were the same, and the only variable was which mobo I was testing, the winner is......a tie! That's right, both boards passed 21x194, failed on their 21x195 effort. The temps reported by CPUZ were in the 64-68C range during testing on both boards. I still need to do more testing, the CPU I used was not my good one so I'll need to see if my good CPU will equal the clock I got a couple days ago in my giga board.
So now it appears it all comes down to features and what is/isn't broken that's supposed to work. For example, smart fan doesn't seem to work as it is set in BIOS, but it does work in software. Also, vista sleep mode works in both mobos if you call 19 second resume time 'working' considering 5-10 seconds is normal. DFI has the edge here. It doesn't do the 6 seconds reported by EVA2000, but it does 13 seconds to 19 for the giga.

[jcool]

You actually left ram timings on auto? On a DFI? Oh the blasphemy

[Astratuner]

I have a little issue with my config. I can´t turn off the f.....g pc normally.
This Enermax have a feature that turn on again for a few seconds all the fans when you turn off the pc, but with this dfi works like a reset
Is annoying.

Anyone with Enermax+dfi x58 combo?

Enermax + DFI is a bad combo in general. The Pro82 and Modu82 series work fine, but Liberty/Galaxy/Infinity have known issues with all DFI mobos. :/

mmm i'm still not sure about wich motherboard i'm going to pick but a dfi is a contestant.


Now I've seen the new enermax revolution85+ psu's and I want one.

So knowing these things what should i do? Take the risk or switch from psu or else the other motherboard i've had in my mind?


Thanks

[The Nemesis]

Can't get much easier then this.

Looking at that image I see that you have IOH labled w/QPI. So is the IOH 1.1v in the bios the same as the QPI frequency we see on the boards from other manufacturers? If so that would explain why so many of us are having trouble getting this board to clock as our previous boards. Most of us are not raising that voltage very high. I noticed its labeled nb core in smart guardian.

[Praz]

Looking at that image I see that you have IOH labled w/QPI. So is the IOH 1.1v in the bios the same as the QPI frequency we see on the boards from other manufacturers? If so that would explain why so many of us are having trouble getting this board to clock as our previous boards. Most of us are not raising that voltage very high. I noticed its labeled nb core in smart guardian.

"IOH_QPI" in the picture is "IOH Analog Voltage" in the BIOS.

[The Nemesis]

"IOH_QPI" in the picture is "IOH Analog Voltage" in the BIOS.

so cpu vtt is the same as qpi voltage for other boards as reported before, okay. I'm still tweaking even grabbed another cpu in hopes I'm not cpu limited.

[Praz]

Updated pic with corrected voltage labels. Sorry about the errors.

[eva2000]

Can't get much easier then this.

http://edgeofstability.com/images/UT...58_Voltage.JPG

thanks for that was wondering what the order of those labels were as the were scrunched up so close together heh

Whipped up a clearer version



are ICH 1.05v and CPU PLL in right place cause if you look at PCB labels the seem to be switched ? I haven't measured them myself yet heh

OK, I'm going crazy getting three video cards to work nicely. I have a pair of 9800GTX+ and added a 9800GX2 to the mix. I all of a sudden get extremely slow boots (30ish progress scroll bars at boot time).

I'm getting weird issues:

It boots with the second DVI port on the GX2 in slot 1. But switches to 9800GTX+ in slot 2 during progress bar and I have to type my password blond and then it switches back to GX2 (well sometime).

I have big issues with the second 9800GTX+ in slot 3 registering at all. Device manager only show 1 9800GTX along with the two 9800GX2.

I tried unplugging my second monitor from slot 2 and removing my vga dummy plugs so it registers only the 9800GX2's second port, but it still picks up the 9800GTX+ in the second port and nvidia's control panel there is a standard vga monitor plugged into it.

This is sure getting whacky. Right now I just finished reinstalling vista ult x64 and hoping it smoothes out for me. so far it shows 2 std. vga cards installed. I'm guessing both 9800GX2 ports.

Any tips for getting all three vid ports going at once (non-sli)
-=Mark=-

weird one, i pointed your post to someone at DFI see if they had come across this. with all the vga devices in there remember to play with memory lowgap option in bios >2560 but if you only have 3gb ram you could probably be lacking available memory left i.e. for 3gb with lowgap 2560 with my 2x hd4870x2 + 256mb cached highpoint 3520lf raid controller, I was left with 1GB available ram in windows xp pro sp3 32bit IIRC

Previously I had reported that my x58 board was a poor OCer. I stumbled upon the problem, it was a bad DRAM setting. In auto, the bios was setting the RAM to 7-7-7, which is way out of spec. I changed to correct 9-9-9 timing and reran my OC test. I had already determined that the same components in my other mobo, a giga ud5, passed prime95 up to 21x194 or 4074Mhz CPU clk. For reference, we're talking:
i7 920 batch 3837A728
Patriot viper RAM, 3x2GB
Tuniq Tower 120, 2100 RPM fan, 75F ambient temp
Vcore 1.356V---this is not BIOS or CPUZ, this is measured with a digital VOM while loaded by Prime95
HT disabled

After correcting the DRAM settings and making sure all other multipliers and settings were the same, and the only variable was which mobo I was testing, the winner is......a tie! That's right, both boards passed 21x194, failed on their 21x195 effort. The temps reported by CPUZ were in the 64-68C range during testing on both boards. I still need to do more testing, the CPU I used was not my good one so I'll need to see if my good CPU will equal the clock I got a couple days ago in my giga board.
So now it appears it all comes down to features and what is/isn't broken that's supposed to work. For example, smart fan doesn't seem to work as it is set in BIOS, but it does work in software. Also, vista sleep mode works in both mobos if you call 19 second resume time 'working' considering 5-10 seconds is normal. DFI has the edge here. It doesn't do the 6 seconds reported by EVA2000, but it does 13 seconds to 19 for the giga.

wonder if my vlite'd vista os made resume faster ?

good to see you got ram sorted, don't forget guys cpu stability is now tied into ram stability with IMC

You actually left ram timings on auto? On a DFI? Oh the blasphemy

depends on module's SPD, i.e. my dual channel rated g.skill pc3-12800hz d9jnm based 7-7-7-18 rated modules have much more tighter spd for subtimings on auto than my other dual channel kits with 8-8-8-x rated spds.

"IOH_QPI" in the picture is "IOH Analog Voltage" in the BIOS.

explains may why i'm pushing much higher bclk in 228-230 range now


Max 230Mhz BCLK

I had all but given up after I found my initial max Bclk 32M Pi stable BCLK of 220Mhz with tight 878mhz 7-7-7-17 timings.

But I'd like to thank Hazzan (233BCLK) and Solarfall (230BCLK) for their inspiration with their DFI UT X58-T3EH8 max BCLK attempts as this prompted me to keep working at it :thumb:

After numerous bios reboots and trying looser timings and a few voltage combinations, I finally surpassed my previous max memtest86+ v2.11 bootable BCLK of 224, moving all the way up to 230-231 memtest bootable.

Enough for a quick boot into windows for a CPUZ Validation at least





System specs

• Intel Core i7 920 3836A756
• Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + LGA1366 Bolt Thru kit + 2x 120x38mm Scythe UltraKaze 2000rpm 87cfm fans in push/pull
• DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 R.A51 - 01/06 beta bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• 2x1GB Corsair DDR3-2133C9DF Dominator
• Ram cooling: 3x 60x25mm Sunon 23.5cfm Maglev fans
• 750GB Samsung HD753LJ
• Pioneer DVD-RW
• 1KW Corsair HX1000 psu
• WinXP Pro SP3 full nLite updated hotfixes

01/06 Beta Bios settings used:

Genie BIOS Setting

CPU Feature
Set VR Current Limit Max: Disabled
Thermal Management Control: Disabled
EIST Function: Disabled
CxE Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
Virtualization Technology: Disabled
TDC Enable: Disabled
x TDC Limit: 0
TDP Enable: Disabled
x TDP Limit: 0

***** Logical Processor Setting *****
Intel HT Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All

DRAM Timing
Memory Control Setting: AUTO
Memory LowGap: 1024M

DRAM Command Rate: AUTO
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 9
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 9
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 9
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 24
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 88
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 16
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 6
Row Cycle Time (tRC): 31
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 6
Four ACT WIN Time (tFAW): 31

Voltage Setting
O.C. Shut Down Free: Enable O.C.S.D.F
CPU VID Control: 1.350v
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.875v
DRAM PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
DRAM PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU VTT Special Add: +0.0750v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.53v
VTT PWM Switch Frequency: Nominal
VTT PWM Phase Control: 2 Phase Operation
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80v
IOH/ICH 1.1V Voltage: 1.27v
IOH Analog Voltage: 1.25v
ICH 1.5 Voltage: 1.7v
ICH 1.05V Voltage: 1.05v
DIMM 1/2 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 3/4 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
DIMM 5/6 DQ/DQSTB Bus VREF: -00.0%
ADDR/CMD VREF Control: Disabled
x DIMM 1/2 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 3/4 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
x DIMM 5/6 ADDR/CMD Bus VREF: 110
CPU QPI Drive Strength: Normal
IOH QPI Drive Strength: Normal

Exit Setup Shut down: Mode 2
O.C. Fail Retry Counter: Enabled
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled

PPM Function: Enabled
Turbo Mode Function: Disabled
1 core Max Turbo Ratio: 22x
2 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
3 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
4 core Max Turbo Ratio: 21x
CPU Non-Turbo Clock Ratio: 17x

* BCLK/UCLK/QPI Controller Settings *
QPI Control Settings: Enabled
QPI Link Fast Mode: Enabled
QPI Frequency: AUTO
CPU Base Clock (BCLK): 231 Mhz
Boot Up CPU Base Clock: AUTO
PCIE Clock: 103 Mhz
DRAM Frequency: 6x
UnCore Frequency: 12x (optimal to keep Uncore at 2x DRAM Frequency)

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Settings highlighted in bold were what I played with to reach 230 BCLK.