i am not trying to put a spin on anything

i am just trying to be factual and realistic here

i've already said that i am really happy to see AMD in such position and that i will buy and bench their hardware now

but we need to be vigilant for PR BS
if AMD claims their CPUs will all do 4GHz easy and some of the testing done so far from non-related sources says otherwise well it has to be said doesnt it

easy 3.6 and easy 4GHz are a lot different imo
it's not a 100MHz up but 400MHz

how many reviews have you seen of i7 priming a 920 at 4.2GHz on air

i have an average chip i feel which requires more vcore then some of my fellow benchers but i can prime at 4.2GHz on air....not sure how stable yet but my guess is that it will handle crysis and similar fairly easily

imagine intel picking a gem that can EASILY do 4.4-4.5GHz on air cooling and everyone gets their CPUs and is getting 4GHz

there sure as hell would be a lot of pissed off ppl including me telling they about it

we have to discuss facts so that fanaticism/fanboyism doesnt get in the way