PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[Hornet331]

Yeah, 3.6Ghz on AIR. Probably at 33C - 40C. Looks like a real dog huh?

noone said its a dog... As for temps well see that with the retail samples.

i am not trying to put a spin on anything

i am just trying to be factual and realistic here

i've already said that i am really happy to see AMD in such position and that i will buy and bench their hardware now

but we need to be vigilant for PR BS
if AMD claims their CPUs will all do 4GHz easy and some of the testing done so far from non-related sources says otherwise well it has to be said doesnt it

easy 3.6 and easy 4GHz are a lot different imo
it's not a 100MHz up but 400MHz

how many reviews have you seen of i7 priming a 920 at 4.2GHz on air

i have an average chip i feel which requires more vcore then some of my fellow benchers but i can prime at 4.2GHz on air....not sure how stable yet but my guess is that it will handle crysis and similar fairly easily

imagine intel picking a gem that can EASILY do 4.4-4.5GHz on air cooling and everyone gets their CPUs and is getting 4GHz

there sure as hell would be a lot of pissed off ppl including me telling they about it

we have to discuss facts so that fanaticism/fanboyism doesnt get in the way

good post, the only believablething (in my eyes) right now is the 3,6ghz by linus. For all the other things thers to little evidence for my taste. Its nice that amd claims they can... but can we (as in consumers) get the same?

As dinos dinos pointed out most of the Ci7 reviews showed a 920@ 3,8ghz-4ghz and now there are users that even get 4,2ghz primestable. Seems the samples Intel gave out pretty much where representative for what you will get with a retail chip.

For Amd it's hard to tell right now... on Amd own PR-show they said 4ghz+, we saw 3,6ghz form linus and saaya said 4ghz+ only for good chips and 3,6ghz for pretty much every chip (on air).

What to belive?

Honestly, i dont know, i'll wait till the 9th of december to make my judgment on this.