PCPER.com: 5 GHZ+ Phenom II Overclock on Dry Ice, 6Ghz on LN2

[informal]

Lol I'm "attacking people"?? Are you for real man?Better check your mirror for paranoia source.

Yeah, 3.6Ghz on AIR. Probably at 33C - 40C. Looks like a real dog huh?

The chip= teh sucks

[Shintai]

Lol I'm "attacking people"?? Are you for real man?Better check your mirror for paranoia source.

Dinos that's a quick and dirty test by Linus,it's not the maximum he could get...For 30mins of OCing,it's great result on air.
Why you guys try to put a negative spin on this Deneb OCing potential?Are you scared of something or what?

Read my previous post what an article said about clock expectations.

[informal]

Yeah wow that's some attack!1!1 Give me a break.
And why are you back here?To try and stir some more ** i suppose?

Back on topic.Here's what Linus said about his video and OCing session :

No benches unfortunately, but that shouldn't be too much of a mystery. It's a Phenom without the TLB bug. It has some more cache, and some tweaks. I'd say probably within 2-10% of original Phenom clock for clock.

As for more headroom, I don't know how good the compatibility of this board is with the mystery chip. It recognizes it correctly, but it takes a long time to POST. I think with a better board/better cooling there has got to be more headroom in here. Like I said before though, this was a VERY quick & dirty overclock and I don't even have the chip/board anymore.

I know you guys are foaming at the mouth for this stuff, but I'm lucky I was able to post what I did.

It may still come back and bite me in the butt!

[Shintai]

Yeah wow that's some attack!1!1 Give me a break.
And why are you back here?To try and stir some more ** i suppose?

Nah, others seems to that fine when they post something you dont like. Only the 4-6Ghz is ok? Rest is negative spins and people being scared.

Be careful not to fall down from the pedestal.

[informal]

Read the above post for Linus' answer about the details of his OCing session.It's clearly a short session(he said 30 minutes) on a board that has a hard time posting with the chip.

[Jazzman]

Yeah wow that's some attack!1!1 Give me a break.
And why are you back here?To try and stir some more ** i suppose?

He is just trying to put you in your place at the back of the Intel speed train.

[informal]

He is just trying to put you in your place at the back of the Intel speed train.

Yeah he does try his best. There was the Nvidia speed train not so long ago .We now know that train was "slightly" derailed at the last stop

[dinos22]

i am not trying to put a spin on anything

i am just trying to be factual and realistic here

i've already said that i am really happy to see AMD in such position and that i will buy and bench their hardware now

but we need to be vigilant for PR BS
if AMD claims their CPUs will all do 4GHz easy and some of the testing done so far from non-related sources says otherwise well it has to be said doesnt it

easy 3.6 and easy 4GHz are a lot different imo
it's not a 100MHz up but 400MHz

how many reviews have you seen of i7 priming a 920 at 4.2GHz on air

i have an average chip i feel which requires more vcore then some of my fellow benchers but i can prime at 4.2GHz on air....not sure how stable yet but my guess is that it will handle crysis and similar fairly easily

imagine intel picking a gem that can EASILY do 4.4-4.5GHz on air cooling and everyone gets their CPUs and is getting 4GHz

there sure as hell would be a lot of pissed off ppl including me telling they about it

we have to discuss facts so that fanaticism/fanboyism doesnt get in the way

[STaRGaZeR]

Seriously, these guys are some kind of brotherhood. If someone post something "good", there is always one to backup him and say "Eh, you rule, and MAD more". If someone post something "bad" the brotherhood is right there to say "f*ck you Intel dog" in unison. Pfff get real guys, that behaviour is just retarded.

And no real info about perfomance or clocks yet

[Mad1723]

What's the fight here?? AMD's coming back in the fight with some nasty weapons under it's sleeve! It could be another good chapter in the computer era, with ATI coming back and then AMD, all competing with their opponents to offer the best bang for the buck! If you wanna buy only Intel, then go ahead. Wanna buy AMD: Go ahead! In the end, the only winner is us, since we are the one getting these excellent chips! We are the one that are getting these speed boosts year after year! Come on, stop arguing over who's a fanboy... we don't care, as long as AMD delivers quality products, everybody here wins!

[jaredpace]

There was the Nvidia speed train not so long ago .

OOUCH!

[justapost]

I can run CB10 at 3465GHz and wprime ran only at 3465MHz(1G) -3485MHz(32m) on my 9950BE. On the showcase the systems passed wprime but failed CB10 at 4GHz. Now if they not mention at a certain clock i'd call it a software issue.
Current i7 systems seem not to run the steam benchmark of the sciencmark2 suite. Abit OT but has this been sorted out or even discussed?

[Hornet331]

Yeah, 3.6Ghz on AIR. Probably at 33C - 40C. Looks like a real dog huh?

noone said its a dog... As for temps well see that with the retail samples.

i am not trying to put a spin on anything

i am just trying to be factual and realistic here

i've already said that i am really happy to see AMD in such position and that i will buy and bench their hardware now

but we need to be vigilant for PR BS
if AMD claims their CPUs will all do 4GHz easy and some of the testing done so far from non-related sources says otherwise well it has to be said doesnt it

easy 3.6 and easy 4GHz are a lot different imo
it's not a 100MHz up but 400MHz

how many reviews have you seen of i7 priming a 920 at 4.2GHz on air

i have an average chip i feel which requires more vcore then some of my fellow benchers but i can prime at 4.2GHz on air....not sure how stable yet but my guess is that it will handle crysis and similar fairly easily

imagine intel picking a gem that can EASILY do 4.4-4.5GHz on air cooling and everyone gets their CPUs and is getting 4GHz

there sure as hell would be a lot of pissed off ppl including me telling they about it

we have to discuss facts so that fanaticism/fanboyism doesnt get in the way

good post, the only believablething (in my eyes) right now is the 3,6ghz by linus. For all the other things thers to little evidence for my taste. Its nice that amd claims they can... but can we (as in consumers) get the same?

As dinos dinos pointed out most of the Ci7 reviews showed a 920@ 3,8ghz-4ghz and now there are users that even get 4,2ghz primestable. Seems the samples Intel gave out pretty much where representative for what you will get with a retail chip.

For Amd it's hard to tell right now... on Amd own PR-show they said 4ghz+, we saw 3,6ghz form linus and saaya said 4ghz+ only for good chips and 3,6ghz for pretty much every chip (on air).

What to belive?

Honestly, i dont know, i'll wait till the 9th of december to make my judgment on this.

[Jazzman]

IF the Dec. 16 availability date posted by a vendor HERE in Italy is in fact real, then maybe you will see some "legitimate" benchies in early Dec.

The fact that prices are posting in Australia and Italy is a good sign. But it always could be BS. We can only hope for benchmarks in Dec.

[Titan7171]

Im thinking if he showed that undisclosed cpu at 4ghz on air plus the fact the cpuz shot shows 8mb of cache that it would be to obvious? and violate the NDA? Maybe there are some lines they cant cross and showing the cpu at 4ghz on air is one of them.

[Macadamia]

Oops, Linus seems to have the C2s. My bad.

What about ACC, though? Was it used?

[Jazzman]

Everyone's having C1 samples right now it seems. Saaya, Linus, that Coolaler guy...

Only AMD themselves have the C2s.

Do we know for a fact that C2 was used exclusiverly at the infamous demo to journalists? I wonder if it was ES or retail version.

[Macadamia]

Do we know for a fact that C2 was used exclusiverly at the infamous demo to journalists? I wonder if it was ES or retail version.

Pre-production, it should be ES and C2.

[flippin_waffles]

Yes it's true (i don't see) , thank you for the help

I will go contact AMD to be closed this blog is unacceptable to allow this information on the web !!

I am very unhappy, I hate it

Is that your website? Do you have access to IP's that recently downloaded that image?

[mars]

i am not trying to put a spin on anything

i am just trying to be factual and realistic here
....
but we need to be vigilant for PR BS
if AMD claims their CPUs will all do 4GHz easy
....

Believing that anyone here for a second expects every single deneb to be an "easy"/definite 4ghz is neither factual nor realistic

even the most basic overclockers understand that the chips will have varying overclocking headroom and most would(should) understand the concept of marketing

not trying to start anything here, i just thought that this was a bit insulting considering the expertise of this forum

[Chad Boga]

not trying to start anything here, i just thought that this was a bit insulting considering the expertise of this forum

I think you are overestimating the rationality of many on this forum.

[Zucker2k]

I think you are overestimating the rationality of many on this forum.

[Calmatory]

Seriously, these guys are some kind of brotherhood. If someone post something "good", there is always one to backup him and say "Eh, you rule, and MAD more". If someone post something "bad" the brotherhood is right there to say "f*ck you Intel dog" in unison. Pfff get real guys, that behaviour is just retarded.

And no real info about perfomance or clocks yet

offtopic: I can'trecall atm which thread it was where Shintai got quite much proven wrong, then you and Hornet331 appreared to defend him before he left. Then some pages ago Shintai was being neutral, which is somewhat rare, at least as I see it. Also that same day Donnie betrayed the whole Intel gang by QFT'ing somewhat "pro-AMD" message. Besides his past contributions towards pro-Intel thinking have been sluggish and he indeed seems like a betrayer. Man, I could write a book about you people! No, I am not trying to be offensive, take it as joke instead.

[AbelJemka]

how many reviews have you seen of i7 priming a 920 at 4.2GHz on air

How many reviewer use prime to test a CPU?

saaya said 4ghz+ only for good chips and 3,6ghz for pretty much every chip (on air).

Tony also said :

Charles its 100% true, whether you like it or not AMD is matching i7 for clock speed...not sure on what performance is like at these clocks though but if clock speed is your thing Intel has a problem for sure.

Now guys lets remember we have not seen facts and figures yet... but the clock speeds are true, Macci was in full control and I am sure there is more to come.

saaya

Who told you they were hand picked samples? i read they were random picked and this is an average of what you can expect.

For those asking if I was there, i was not, lots of friends were though and we supplied hardware for the show...as such i was able to ask questions as this story was breaking.

So maybe AMD handpicked CPU even a trusty member like Tony seems to think that's not the case, but some people her clearly handpicked comments...

And no real info about perfomance or clocks yet

There is a lots of info about performance and clock. We knw it can be worse performance than Phenom and we know it 3.6GHz primestable!

[Zucker2k]

How many reviewer use prime to test a CPU?


Tony also said :






So maybe AMD handpicked CPU even a trusty member like Tony seems to think that's not the case, but some people her clearly handpicked comments...


There is a lots of info about performance and clock. We knw it can be worse performance than Phenom and we know it 3.6GHz primestable!

The fifth quote is by Tony, not Saaya. On the other hand, if you believe the CPUs used were "randomly picked," then you must believe in flying saucers as well. That is just not the way these companies do business, neither would you.