Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
i am not trying to put a spin on anything

i am just trying to be factual and realistic here
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but we need to be vigilant for PR BS
if AMD claims their CPUs will all do 4GHz easy
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Believing that anyone here for a second expects every single deneb to be an "easy"/definite 4ghz is neither factual nor realistic

even the most basic overclockers understand that the chips will have varying overclocking headroom and most would(should) understand the concept of marketing

not trying to start anything here, i just thought that this was a bit insulting considering the expertise of this forum