Deneb just around the corner?

[keithlm]

Actually I think we are seeing many Intel fans getting nervous.

We have the B2 that came out with a "problem" that AMD admitted. There was a bios update that "stopped" that problem but was not really a "solution".

Then the B3 came out with quick fix to that problem in "hardware." But was it really a FIX? We must ask: Did they FIX that problem with B3 or just throw in something that made it not happen? And did that problem affect actual performance?

If they actually had a problem that was only "masked" by the "fix" then it is VERY possible that the Deneb, if it actually FIXES that problem could be much more than a mere "shrink".

Okay. They add cache. They change a few other things. They actually fix the problem they had. This could be MUCH more than a mere "shrink" from 65nm to 45nm. It could actually be MUCH more than that.

On the other hand we might just see Deneb suddenly make Yorkfield look bad. If that is the only thing that happens... that would be VERY good indeed.

But then based on the fact that it is also an IMC... if it does well against Yorkfield it could also do VERY WELL against the i7. Even if it ONLY does well against Yorkfield that is GREAT. But what I am pointing out is that it could also do very well on all benchmarks that make the i7 look "great". That would be predictable and only someone that is biased would not see that. But then even if it did... it still wouldn't stop the "OMG i7 is going to be the better" posts on this or other forums. Even if it only matched i7 at the same speed... you'd still have the "OMG it's not Intel" crowd. Although it would stop the "I only really care about the price per performance" crowd from making stupid posts.

Will it happen? We do not actually know yet. If might merely be better than what is available now. On the other hand... the Intel "natives" are getting restless. (Which I must admit is very enjoyable to see.)

OTOH: I am tired of the "Q6600 is better than the best AMD has to offer" crowd posting their tripe. That hasn't been true for months but they still post it in a sad attempt to make their opinion "more true" than reality. It would be nice to see the "best" Yorkfields fall short. And guess what? It could happen. If they didn't have a "secret" we probably would have seen leeks. We haven't. That means SOMETHING is going to happen soon. Or not. The only thing we can really say NOW is that we don't know yet.