Quote Originally Posted by Chad Boga View Post
Do you think it odd that I am sceptical that Deneb will get a greater IPC boost than has been achieved at any time in the last 12+ years from just a shrink and more cache?

What is the precedent for the crazy optimism that some have for Deneb's improvement over Phenom?
It is not just a die shrink and more cache...it has improved instructions per clock and other enhancements that were not done with the agena core..the agena core was passed off as "finished" before it was finished...they had a big problem with the roll out of agena...if it would have went as planned it would have been a better contender to Intel's 65nm chips...but it had a lot of mistakes...so, that said, there is a chance to see a bigger boost for this 45nm, considering that if 65nm came out as it was supose too, the 45nm would be a meare die shrink and cache increase as you say and just a marginal boost in speed per clock, as expected from this type of transition. Maybe I am being a little more hopeful. But I am, as others, are aloud to be. And if we are let down, oh well no harm no foul. And as I stated earlier, AMD did not intend Deneb to be a Perfrormance crowned processor. So it will fall right where they expect it to. They "plan" (hope) to bring the FX brand back with AM3 in 2009 sometime. I also hope that happens also. But we'll have to see how things go.