Deneb just around the corner?

[YukonTrooper]

Well you are wrong and way out of line.
It is ok to post and disagree with what I said.
It is not ok to make me out to be an idiot. It shows a distinct lack of respect for a fellow human and it also shows the level of your intelligence.
I made an observation based on 20 years of watching the industry and I have never seen intel react like this before. Why that warrants a personal attack is beyond me.
The fact is AMD has a cpu that has been clocked to over 4ghz on air several times now and I think that would be enough to make intel sit up and take notice.

I'm sorry if I insulted you, because that was never the intention. I was trying to use a dash of sarcasm to embolden what I thought about your presumptions. I just think "Intel running scared" is a little adventurous in conclusion.

Yes, Intel sitting up and taking notice is one thing, but Intel running scared is something totally different.

Yukon Trooper just doesn't get it, he is like most of the other fans and refuses to believe that AMD is capable of overtaking intel here.
It was only a few months ago that nvidia fans were singing from the same songbook.
AMD were as quiet as a mouse before the 4 series launch and it's exactly the same here except for the hardspell leaks and Coolaler but they were silenced pretty damn fast. Not a peep out of them since.
Nehalem hasn't been paper launched for no reason. Yes it looks good but AMD don't need to take the performance crown they can do it with price just like HD4870 has done.

Just back up a few steps. I'm not an Intel fanboy, and I think this where you have me all wrong. I don't know what you mean by AMD overtaking Intel, but I do believe they will put a competitive chip on the market, as they are kind of in a position where they have to, considering they can't afford to have another Phenom mishap.

Look, I already said I'd love to go back to an AMD system, so please don't label me as an Intel fanboy, as that is another adventurous conclusion. Before my C2D system, I had a 3800+ X2 and X1900XT, but Phenom just didn't have the performance I was after when it was released. If AMD can release a chip that is similar in performance to Nehalem at a competitive price, I will hop back on the AMD train pronto.

Which brings me to my next point: It just seems that whenever a company neutral guy comes into these AMD sections, and even makes the slightest mention that Intel has faster chips, which is totally accurate, they get flame-basted like a midsummer Californian wildfire.