you know just from reading the threads that have deneb in the name i have mentally created a list of people that just come to the amd forums to flame people. its the same people everytime and chad i really don't think you know anything about amd.

but at least soon all this flaming will end because if deneb does come out soon or shanghai at least then we will see how it is. i think deneb will be really well but theres nothing to say for certain yet. same thing with nehalem. don't tell me of all the benchmarks you have seen for it, if it has not been released yet you don't know how it will be. the original intent of this thread was to let people in the amd section know that deneb might be coming soon. instead this has turned into a flame war inbetween 2 unreleased processors with no one here being able to provide any information that will back it up. you can hope and guess what you think will happen but no one can say deneb sucks or nehalem sucks until they are actually released.