Quote Originally Posted by Epsilon84 View Post
Let me just say this: 15 - 20% IPC gains from a die shrink would be absolutely incredible and unheard of, but many here seem to think its a realistic figure? 15 - 20% improvements are more akin to an architectural overhaul, for example K8 -> K10 gained about that much.

Just as a point of comparison, Penryn gained on average 5 - 6% per clock through a larger cache and several minor architectural improvements. AMD would have to work miracles to get 15 - 20% gains from Deneb, frankly I very much doubt it but I would be more than happy to eat humble pie if proven wrong.
isn't deneb bringing HT 3.1 and 3x as much L3 cache