Quote Originally Posted by Bellisimo View Post
imo, this is because the IMC was on the NB, L2 caches helps to hide the memory latency (L3 in nehalem and K10/K10.5)

but i really like to think about deneb as a RV770, which means a RV670 done right
i dont expect it to beat nehalem, but if it is a K10 done right, it may end op close in some scenarios

at least deneb will offer full control over the cpu, unlike nehalem where only the extreme part is usefull for overclocking and high mem speeds


I see you're spreading more of your fud. Francois already explained that there is no overclocking protection and what everyone is calling "overclocking protection" can be turned off from your your BIOS.

Anyway, if Deneb is competitively priced and offers 5%-15% performance improvement over Agena (clock for clock), I think it will be a good alternative to Yorkfield and Nehalem for the AMD fans.