GeForce 9900 GTX & GTS Slated For July Launch

[adamsleath]

yes, the sad truth of high end cards is their price

[Luka_Aveiro]

well at extreme high setting and aa on crysis is giving 43 fps with 280 in sli configuration and some quad core (no exact info) 1920x1200 resolution (dell monitor i guess it is 24")

BTW this is my 1st post

Would you like to be a little more detailed about what you're saying? I bet everyone's interested

[[XC] hipno650]

No, the Voodoo3 3000 was never $299. I know, because I bought it at launch day for $200 from CompUSA in April 1999. Unless you were an idiot... LOL!



Not just Nvidia!!! ATI's X800XT was at the same $500+ price point, with the rare platinum edition running at well over $650. I got my X1900XTX at $500 off Ebay when it was selling for $599 at CompUSA for many months later.

But, if you gotta blame it on Nvidia, you can say that the first $500 gaming card ever was the GeForce 2 Ultra! Remember that? Voodoo2 SLI was $500, but that was for 2 separate cards...

oh you misunderstood me. i had no intention of bashing nvidia. and i could have done the same thing with older ATI cards as well

X850XT PE over $600
X1800XT 512 over $600
X1900XTX over $600
X1950XTX over $550

the only reason that the new ATI cards have not been the same way (2900xt and 3870X2) is because sub par performance would mean no one would pay over $600 for them.

people just need to realize that most top of the line cards are over $600 at launch. sure you can get good cards for $300 but there not top of the line. you want the big performance you pay the big bucks.

[mascaras]

BTW this is my 1st post

well at extreme high setting and aa on crysis is giving 43 fps with 280 in sli configuration and some quad core (no exact info) 1920x1200 resolution (dell monitor i guess it is 24")

Source ???



My system with 9800GX2 @ Crysis :

E8400@4Ghz
4Gb Gskill 8000 PQ
NVidia 9800GX2
TFT 22" @ 1680x1050
VERY HIGH Settings
AA = OFF
Vista 64bit @ DX10
Average = 35.5 FPS






regards

[DilTech]

No, it just means they finally got the MUL working constantly...
Which should have happened over 18 months ago.

No... The MUL would only account for a 33% increase(MADD = 2, MUL = 1), so there's more to the story than just the MUL working now.

[god's_gift]

source is well .... a asic designer in MCP group........... with some chance it being myself

i am vacationing......no one can tress my ip

i do not have a lot of 1st hand info on this beyond design and simulation stage

initial design goal was 100% improvement on previous generation mostly through better shader structure

but there was some setbacks in doubling the shader performance and scaling for more than 200(initially thought) shaders


the quad core was probably qx9650 for the test rig on 790i

and i told that there was some aa involved for maximum stress test

unfortunately i do not have info on aa level

BTW mascaras are you using some tweaked thing for crysis?

why do not you check fps at 1920x1200 maximum setting and some varying level of aa

[MrHydes]

9600 GT Matrix


Hybrid cooling tech.

Source: nordichardware

Stock Clocks

Asus latest baby (road to Computex 08)

sorry the offtopic

[mascaras]

source is well .... a asic designer in MCP group........... with some chance it being myself

i am vacationing......no one can tress my ip

i do not have a lot of 1st hand info on this beyond design and simulation stage

initial design goal was 100% improvement on previous generation mostly through better shader structure

but there was some setbacks in doubling the shader performance and scaling for more than 200(initially thought) shaders


the quad core was probably qx9650 for the test rig on 790i

and i told that there was some aa involved for maximum stress test

unfortunately i do not have info on aa level

BTW mascaras are you using some tweaked thing for crysis?

why do not you check fps at 1920x1200 maximum setting and some varying level of aa

nope , no tweak !

i dont have GX2 anymore to check at 1920x1200 (waiting for new card @ review)

i also bought a new HP 23" @ 1920x1200 two days ago !


i think ~40 fps crysis with 2x GTX280 @ SLI (~1200$) @ 1920x1200 is nothing special , i hope they are better ......


regards

[Luka_Aveiro]

~40 fps crysis with 2x GTX280 @ SLI (~1200$) @ 1920x1200 i think is Low ......

I believe it's just too soon to make such an assumption, we should wait for reviews and trusty sources.

And he doesn't know AA level used in that "bench", so we cannot assume it's good or bad, i think...

[jas420221]

I believe it's just too soon to make such an assumption, we should wait for reviews and trusty sources.

And he doesn't know AA level used in that "bench", so we cannot assume it's good or bad, i think...

If thats true, it better be AT LEAST 4X...

[Leeghoofd]

We used to be able to buy top-end cards for $300 only a few years ago so this new trend of stupidly high prices SUCKS. The G92 was more in-line with historical pricing.

Think you got Alzheimer mate... all the top end cards I got the last few years, with exception of the 9800GTX were over 450-500 euro's here so about 600 dollars at release date (talking about Nvidia only)
All the cards you bought were surely NOT bought on launch date or you got some direct connect with Nvidia or access to some hidden cargo...

I payed at least twice as much as you...:shrug... and don't talk about online access as I look for those too... on Launch date you pay extra just to have it, if you wait a month(s) or so you can get far better deals... but I don't care for that...

If you got the fastest on the market and demand is there, why not ask for a premium price... would be stupid in a marketing point of view...

I always buy the fastest thing around , I don't know why really as my monitor doesn't support resolutions over 1600 x 1200 lol... I'm just a show off...

[Nuker_]

If thats true, it better be AT LEAST 4X...

I hope it is 16x and VERY bad drivers. It would be pathetic if it did not outperform gx2.

[Jacky]

I am kinda lazy, so could someone tell me whether it will support double precision? I guess no..

[ownage]

Vantage Xtreme settings, 1920*1200+4aa+16af

GTX 280 (D10U-30): X4098
GTX 260 (D10U-20): X3782

9800GX2 should score X3600

[Nuker_]

I am kinda lazy, so could someone tell me whether it will support double precision? I guess no..

I thought it would be a yes to that q.

Ownage, are you telling me that 280 is going to perform 8% better than 260 for 30% higher msrp? And that it is faster than gx2.

[ownage]

I thought it would be a yes to that q.

Ownage, are you telling me that 280 is going to perform 8% better than 260 for 30% higher msrp? And that it is faster than gx2.

We already knew both cards would be faster then the GX2. I don't have any experience with Vantage, so don't know if 8% is allot or not.

[Nuker_]

We already knew both cards would be faster then the GX2. I don't have any experience with Vantage, so don't know if 8% is allot or not.

I meant 260. I didn't really think that was going to be faster than GX2. 280 obviously would be faster.

[ownage]

I meant 260. I didn't really think that was going to be faster than GX2. 280 obviously would be faster.

It was already rumored for a while both cards would be faster then the GX2. These Vantage scores say the same. One thing is sure, these cards are evil!

[Nuker_]

It was already rumored for a while both cards would be faster then the GX2. These Vantage scores say the same. One thing is sure, these cards are evil!

Yeah! Hope I'm not too optimistic, but if the 260 is 10% faster the GX2 the 280 will be like 37.5% better! For 600 $ that's a quite nice price/performance ratio. If this is true, I will probably buy one at launch date, but I wonder how my power supply will handle the beast! Finally I will be able to play crysis at my desktop resolution with something like 40-60 fps, which my hd2900xt does at 8-9 fps.

[zerazax]

Should be good, though I be people will whine that they were promised 2x GX2 speed

[GoldenTiger]

Think you got Alzheimer mate...
I always buy the fastest thing around , I don't know why really as my monitor doesn't support resolutions over 1600 x 1200 lol... I'm just a show off...

Right, because I remember the past, I have Alzheimer's? Sounds like you do more than me, though personal insults are usually the resort of those who have no other ammo to debate with as you obviously do not. I bought all of the cards within a week or two of their launches always... before the 6800-series and ATI equivalents it was always that way ($300-350 tops, less often). This is a new trend that is ludicrous, $600-650+ is way too much for a card both historically and in modern-day money period. You can buy a whole gaming computer for that which performs 80% as well as a $650 card.

Being a show-off is obvious... you act like getting fleeced is "cool" and "smart" when it is not.

[SimBy]

Vantage Xtreme settings, 1920*1200+4aa+16af

GTX 280 (D10U-30): X4098
GTX 260 (D10U-20): X3782

9800GX2 should score X3600

Hmm GTX 280 only what 13% faster than X2? Is it just me or expectations run much higher?

If those numbers are real then I think some fanboys are gonna be crying.

[GoldenTiger]

Yeah! Hope I'm not too optimistic, but if the 260 is 10% faster the GX2 the 280 will be like 37.5% better! For 600 $ that's a quite nice price/performance ratio. If this is true, I will probably buy one at launch date, but I wonder how my power supply will handle the beast! Finally I will be able to play crysis at my desktop resolution with something like 40-60 fps, which my hd2900xt does at 8-9 fps.

It sure isn't. 37.5% more performance for ~90% price increase over a pair of 8800GTS 512's in SLI on a fairly easy-to-find deal nowadays ($175-180 isn't uncommon), is not a good "bang for the buck" "price/performance ratio". Nice job buying into marketing though.

[Nuker_]

That requires a crappy nvidia mobo though. And then I can't use the PCI slots need.

[003]

If those are real benchmarks, the GT200 will be a huge letdown. I can't decide what to get....

dual 4870X2s in quadfire (thats 1920 SPs, 128 TMUs & 64 ROPs) or a single GTX280...