AMD turns TSMC into a CPU manufacturing giant

[Shintai]

you do realize that you are comparing a cpu arch with a gpu arch? you also realise that a gpu has much more logic then any cpu and that there is a different in quantity of transistors?

90nm G80:681m transistors core freq: 575 shader freq: 1,35Ghz
TDP: 185W

65nm G92: 754m transistors core freq: 600 shader freq: 1,5Ghz
TDP: 145W

45nm QX9770: 820m transistors freq:3,2GHz TDP: 135W

TSMC process looks quite compared to intels if you ask me

Heh, the shader part is basicly like P4 ALUs. And it would quickly be 600Mhz vs 3.2ghz. Or if you lower it abit, a 2billion trasistor IA64 at 95W at 1.6-2Ghz vs 750million G92 at 500Mhz at about 110W. All at 65nm.

TSMCs process tech is compared to AMD/Intel is garbage. But its cheap and extremely high volume. TSMC is basicly making cheap Lada/Skodas while AMD/Intel is making expensive lamboginis and ferraries. Why do you think GPUs are so cheap aswell? To compare, TSMC even still uses low-K in their 45nm because high K and metal gates are too advanced. Why do you think GPUs easily die (even by themselves) but CPUs hardly if even do?

Hell even TSMC writes a 40% speed increase compared to 65nm for generel purpose process. While Intels is 51% and AMDs will also be somewhere near that. Not even to talk about leakage that is TSMC major issue. TSMC also got a 30nm gatelength and Intel 35nm. Simply to help cut cost, not to boost performance. The oxide thinkness for TSMC is 1.25nm and 1nm for Intel. The 2 processes are worlds apart. And AMDs will look alot more like Intels than TSMC.

This also helps to illustrate the differences:

Note: TSMC is NOT making 32nm low power chips. But they released information about what they will do.