Max 100% stable found at stock MHz was my last post.

VID (Idle Volts/Load Volts)

CPU - 2300MHz (200x11.5) 1.175VID 1.160V Idle/1.152V Load
NB - 1800MHz 1.050VID (near 1.0V)
Idle - 98W AC
Load - 165W AC

NB VID 1.000 booted, never froze, surfed web easy, but failed Prime95 inside 10 minutes.
CPU VID 1.138 (1.120V) and 1.162 (1.152V/1.144V) booted and idled perfectly running Thunderbird, WinRAR, SuperPi 1M and Firefox. Ran Prime95; the first failed inside 2 minutes and the second setting core3 failed after 40mins. The rest ran fine till the 3hr mark (never tested beyond).

BIOS/CPU Problems:
-Cannot boot below NB 9x multi on Phenom 9600 BE (both of my last ones - can do with Phenom 9500 and 9600 though)
-Cannot boot plus HT 10x multi.
-AOD is extremely buggy if HT is moved above 9x through BIOS (it'll freeze/reboot).

Max HT POST: 268MHz
Max HT full bootup: 265MHz (got excited before capturing, moved it up and system froze - not worked since then)
*Max HT Validated: 248MHz (stable easy - there's a black hole after this 1MHz)
Max CPU POST: 3240MHz
Max CPU full bootup: 3040MHz (froze on capturing screenshot, damn PNG compression -volts makes no difference, never happened since)
**Max CPU validated: 2812MHz (locks up idling)
Max CPU benchable: ~2760MHz
Max CPU stable: 2756MHz (with sub 1.4V, not 1MHz more stable is possible)
Max NB stable: 2500MHz
Max HT stable: 2480MHz

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I will later post the BIOS AM2+ P-State mappings and what volts they give you to the limit of my testing so far. I am too short of time to test yet though and haven't even tried plus 1.4V oc limit yet. OC stability has gradually started decreasing. What I required 1.32V to do before (2.726G) now requires 1.368V minimum or else it'll lock up idling. I'm going to just Prime95 cycle it days on end to see if there is degradation, which I expect as seen with my last Phenoms. What happens is, they start requiring more volts, usually +0.1V more for 100MHz less after 3 weeks at a particular MHz/V than when first stability tested. So say I have 2.7G stable at 1.328V... it becomes 2.58-2.6G at 1.4V.

Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
Yep, does not help that much in idle but under load it can save ~10W.

Wish I could do more testing but i'm looking for rought numbers at ref HT's in 2MHz steps so it whould take forever. So my current criteria is 20 minutes prime95, then i run cinebench10 and note the power consumption during rendering and the time the benchmark tool and the temps during the benchmark and in idle. That way I can calculate the "render enegry" required at given ref HT's. I will be finsihed in a few days.

That's the IMC limit before it starts failing. 1.0VID failed after 40 minutes P95 on one core.

He He, I found if you put a little more vid on the cpu you can go lower with the nb.
Assuming the cpu can handle 100A and the nb 20A the average voltage needed can be calculated like this:

u = u1*4/5+u2*1/5

This average is very close for two different cpu vid/nb vid settings at the same ref HT, the diference is ~0,005V.
Are you sure about this Achim? Currents are separately regulated and limited. I'm not sure how NB VIDs/Volts affect CPU VIDs/Volts you know, they are totally separate and independent of each other, because the IMC has it's own separate voltage from the cores, decided initially by the NB VID; on the 5 phase MSI RD790, CPU gets 4 phase PWM regulation with a maximum of 110A, so 27.5A in each phase and the IMC gets 1 separate phase for 20A maximum. Both have separate VRMs controlling their supply voltages, and both attain independent voltages. This is why that fella burnt up his K9A2 CF PWM area, it can't handle 110A+20A through the VRMs.
So, if I test 2.3G CPU/1.8G IMC at 1.2V/1.1VID and it fails, moving it to 1.4V/1.1VID or 1.4V/1.05VID doesn't get me any more stability at all, it still fails.

Quote Originally Posted by Brains1 View Post
KTE

What ram are you using in your system?
2x 1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 (D9GMH) 5-5-5-15-30 2T 2.2V.
I placed the ram in the two differnt slots 1 and 3. Both stick are now seen as Single Channel. 2GBs. System posted with no memory timings tweaks
That's single channel but did you change it to unganged mode?
Using POH bios with TLB fix disabled. Seems like the best bios with my ram.
Still cant get it dual channel.

Going to run that winrar test on this bios, On the Phenom.

I ran some tests on my BE 5000x2 with the k9A2 2gigs I get 970kbs
also on my 939 system 3800x2 2gigs RAID 0 I get 690kbs

A phenom gettting in the 700s sucks.
IDK which settings you had on the 5000+BE, but 2.64G/1.2G HT/880MHz 4-4-4-4 1T RAM gets 1332KB/s with 5000+ BE. Want to see what Phenom gets on a rough run with CPU 35MHz lower and high RAM timings?



That's ~150KB/s lower than a 3.6G Q6600 running 1200 5-5-5-15 RAM.

What is the Xpress option in this bios???
Right next to TLB fix.
AutoXpress? I didn't try the new BIOSes properly apart from just RAM/TLB patch because that's all that I needed more and they had next to no BIOS OC options I wanted. I always left that option disabled, sorry.

Quote Originally Posted by Brains1 View Post
Yes but if you paid attention to my whining ... I cant get a post with my Cosair Dominator 8500 with either in 1+2 or 3+4

I have to take the second stick out everytime. I have a resetup my bios because if gives a bad checksum. Then I play the with more timing voltage NB volt. Divider. Nothing.
So I want to get the exact sticks that you or Kte has so I can have some more fun
Have you changed DRAM timings and RAM volts to what it's rated for with just one stick in and then reboot>add 2nd stick>boot?

Quote Originally Posted by jonspd View Post
thats cause ddr2 1066 has issues...

I think the 1.33 betas may help you out alittle.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=859[/
Yep, the new P0G/P0H and 133 BETA can run RAM at all dividers perfectly.