Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
Other way round, exactly.

If you want access to lower volts, decrease VID.
If you want access to higher volts, increase VID.

I believe the CPU and NB VIDs are mapped to the same range of voltages.
Can be it's a feature of your mobo's bios to prevent harmfull settings.

Hmm..

Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
Yeah, they're the same. We get 000-127 options too.

But they use binary=decimal VID values instead, which is of little use to us.
Guess they use binary values because it's easier for developers, whom have to work with the registers.
Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
Have you seen this below BTW? This is why we were having boot-up problems with low NB DID then.
Yepp, I saw it some time ago as i skimed thru that document looking for those dependencies. That time I thought I'll never be affected by those limits.

Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
I wish they had unlocked HT downwards too! From >150 would've been good, especially handy when troubleshooting and limiting memory when testing through FID and DID combinations.
Yepp wished for lower ref HT also.

Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
You sure?
I identified the chips and the relevant pins, just gonna find the resistances connected to those pins. The only issue is that area is infinitesimal in size. Can't follow the conducting paths with the eyes and the camera I have is also not high res enough.
Guess I can not measure resistances with the old osciloscope I have.

Do you have in mind which AMD document shows the pin assignment of the phenom cpu's?

BTW: My mobo has unganged settings in the bios (can be unhidden by hitting F4) so I can run everest benches in unanged mode for comparison here, but they will be lower than the ganged mode results. Most of your expamples in this thread use cpu frequencies i can not reach with my bios limiting vcore so i'd be happy if you could run everest at stock just for mobo clock per clock and timing by timing comparison.


Master does not sound bad, but i'm heading for guru state of mind.