experiments in water cooling a mach/vapo

[bazx]

sacha35 came over today to start our joint efforts to improve performance
of one of these units using water cooled condensing

[bazx]

the mod done we just had time to vac and gas the unit today

with 402a

tomorrow we will start to tune the unit under load on a 6800

parts:

5 foot of 1/2 with 6 foot of 1/4 coiled HX
high pressure read point
1m suction return
0.031 cap
Little devil chilly type evap
danfoss high pressure cut off KP 5 (not fitted yet) used to shut unit down if water cooling pump fails

R402a

mounting brackets still to be made to support the HX

and insulate the pipe work

[bazx]

water cooling being used in these tests is the same as i used in cascade 5 and 4

water barrel and pond pump

this would not be the final solution for the water cooling but will work well for the these
experiments

more on that here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=152749

[bazx]

Nice Baz,

What are you using to coil the 1/2" so tightly? It looks great

Tom

my R23 bottle has a screw on top that was just right for the job

[LittleDevil]

Really nice job What lenght of captube did you use on that unit? And mybe you will get even better results with condensor + watercooling

Regards

[bazx]

Really nice job What lenght of captube did you use on that unit? And mybe you will get even better results with condensor + watercooling

Regards

i have 2.8m for now

i will see how it works under load then maybe longer maybe shorter

you would not believe how quiet this unit is without the fans

[LittleDevil]

you would not believe how quiet this unit is without the fans

No need to use fan on the condensor, only try to put it before ''watercooling'' and it will work like pasive cooler

Regards

[Freddie123]

A D-Tek DB-1 would be great for this situation as they're tiny! Plus cheap

[bazx]

A D-Tek DB-1 would be great for this situation as they're tiny! Plus cheap

i would need to take advice from guys like you on the water side as i have very little knowlage of whats available

but i have seen some rads in the water cooling forum that look like they could do very well

[sacha35]

Nice one baz you got it posted up, i must admit baz done most of the work and i just observed, but i was truly amassed at how well this works, i cant say for loaded pressures but the unloaded pressure is far better than my twin condenser run unit using the same compressor.

I was totally blown away by the amount or should i say lake of heat generated by the compressor and feed line, this seams to have a big impact on not just cooling the compressed refrigerant, but also the cooling tracks back to the compressor keeping this cool as well.

As Freddie123 said the D-Tek DB-1 would be a good pump to use together with a Black Ice GT Stealth 360 and 3 Yate Loons running at 7v, it would be very quite unit.

will look forward to seeing loaded results mate and what a pleasure it was working with you today.

sacha

[runmc]

Looks like a lot of fun guys Not much of a Mach anymore.

[bazx]

Looks like a lot of fun guys Not much of a Mach anymore.

hehe maybe when it gets its clothes back again it will look like a mach

[TopherTony]

Very interesting. Cant wait for the results

[jinu117]

Sounds fun Time to use geothermal source maybe shortly? :O

[Pete]

Wow Baz, you never stop trying to push the limits do you.

I was going to PM you latter asking what if you mixed WC with a DSHC.

I guess a Thermochill PA120.1 be idea as there low CFM and high heat disapation, the D-tek pump is great, cheap, small and Tom at Chilled PC has them instock.

Infact with the PA120.1 you might even be able to run passive.

I got an old BIX out of an Astek kit here if you wanted to bottor it to test with, G1/4' threads for what ever fittings you wanted/needed.

I'm really really intrested in this

[Nosfer@tu]

Or the Thermochill PA160

Or just a PA.360 on the side of the case

[Pete]

Or the Thermochill PA160

Or just a PA.360 on the side of the case

PA160 on the base with barb going vericly up, where condser would go, undet the coil now that be a good location as your fan could even blow over the coil too so water + air

[teyber]

idea?
make a chiller, one to the condensor(watercooled/chilled) and other to the rest of the setup. Would be expensive, but could get near cascade temps(not quite) and also be able to chill other stuff like gfx and nb...

And for rad, best bang for buck by far is the swiftech mcr-320...

[4Qman]

WOW this is looking great.

Thermochill Rads are the best Rads. Can use lower CFM fans "Quieter" so if possible fit a PA160 Rad at rear and have exhaust fan pulling through the rad. This saves adding a extra fan to the rad so just use the exhaust fan from the case to do the job "if can be fitted there that is".

So Baz is the idea to have this connect to the Loop of a existing water setup Or have a reservoir also so this is a loop of its own ?

Again great work, no hanging around with you 2,. Only see that unit yesterday morning and now its striped and modded

[Pete]

4Qman

PA120.1 is betterer as the PA160 needs the shorud to fit the 120mm fan!

Thermochill PA120.1, 1/2" T-Piece , Danger Den Fillport 1/2" barb , Masterkleer 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) PVC Tubing, D-Tek dB-1 Compact 12v Pump

Use the DD fill port and T-line as a res, simple, cheap, small and very very effective. The fill port can be fitted in the top of the case even and drop down to the base.

PA120.1 could go at the front or the rear. I'd of said front so the NL11F has some active cooling going over it.



Only decent photo i can find of a T-line setup for you guys.

[sacha35]

Hay guys what about just having the rad/pump/res just in your PC case and then just linking the water cooled condenser up with some fast fix fixings that could be put in the back of the mach unit, do you think this would be a good idea ?

[4Qman]

4Qman

PA120.1 is betterer as the PA160 needs the shorud to fit the 120mm fan!

Your correct i remember now . I also agree on the T-Line as this will be cheaper and easier to fill.

So it will be a Loop in the Phase unit itself

Will be watching this with excitement

[4Qman]

Hay guys what about just having the rad/pump/res just in your PC case and then just linking the water cooled condenser up with some fast fix fixings that could be put in the back of the mach unit, do you think this would be a good idea ?

Mate the only concern would be the heat dump from the condensor Id imagine it will be enough to heat the rest of the loop.

[Freddie123]

Hay guys what about just having the rad/pump/res just in your PC case and then just linking the water cooled condenser up with some fast fix fixings that could be put in the back of the mach unit, do you think this would be a good idea ?

Great till you have someone who watercools their GPU and NB. Would get a bit cramped.

I think one idea would be to attach a slimline rad to the bottom and raise the Mach up. A 3 fan rad could be used passively with this setup.

[Pete]

Your correct i remember now . I also agree on the T-Line as this will be cheaper and easier to fill.

So it will be a Loop in the Phase unit itself

Will be watching this with excitement

Ahy it make sense too. It's what i'm thinking of! I'd use a 240v pump, Eheim 1048 maybe. Only reason is i have 2 spear here.

I think one idea would be to attach a slimline rad to the bottom and raise the Mach up. A 3 fan rad could be used passively with this setup.

Thats exactly what i was thinking. I just got a PA120.3 and my SS case is 390x210x230 so trying to work out where i can mount it. Top is a no go as PC case will be sat on top so base makes sense.