Here's a little teaser....

[zakelwe]

and your point is?

why don't you let the folks who actually know something about the platform get a chance to get test the processors out besides hacking through a list of "Well, Intel did this..." stuff? we get it, you're not impressed....don't really care.

i have been upfront in claiming that B1 cores with their BIOS workaround DO cause performance deficits. BA will eliminate that, so, why don't you shut up and let me (and S7) get back to getting the platforms in line. you don't see me crapping in your threads, so....please, stop trying to attack people.

dave

Dear Dave,


My point is that Intel Conroe was putting in great scores months before release even with new BIOS and motherboards. K10 doesn't do the same after release, what does that show?

You say I attack people, however I have only ever attacked the initial K10 results and said that "excuses" for it were not logical. If you want an example of somone attacking the person let me quote you on another forum:-

""i'm a liar at Xtremesys by a few uninformed imbeciles but, whatever....""

Nobody called you a liar, we were trying to work out the steppings by asking questions to try and get to the bottom of it. Nice to know what you actually think of us when you are not here though.....

And as for you claim about :-


"i have been upfront in claiming that B1 cores with their BIOS workaround DO cause performance deficits"

I can inform you now that Anandtech were using BA and B1 according to a source at Anandtech and did not notice a difference between the two but they are still testing and will give a full report later.

On the subject of testing, you said why don't I shut up and wait for you to get testing these things in anger. Good idea. I waited and you both are producing very little so I thought I'd just mention

SHOW US THE BEEF

XS is all about results on the desktop, not excuses and what ifs and could have beens and just wait a bit longer and the platforms currently is not right. A fantasic processor would still cut through all of this like Woodcrest/Conroe did.

You have to walk the walk, not talk the talk and after 17 pages how much walking has actually been done in this thread? And this is a cpu that is being shipped for revenue, not something to be released in Q108

Regards

Andy