"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[KoHaN69]

Wat is "Long-Life PWM Capacitors" ?

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Yeah P5Q-Deluxe only has 8x by 8x PCI-E in crossfire.

Personally I hate gigabyte and wouldn't touch them, although some people have pulled off some nice clocks with them. The DFI LT X38 is expensive, and if I was going to spend that much I'd get a Striker or a Maximus. The DFI X48 is really expensive, but they make some fantastic gear. It's your call, but for the price, the P5Q-Dlx is a nice board, but the premium offers some extra improvements.

I actually have a DFI LP LT X38 board im trying to sell.

[RejZoR]

Wat is "Long-Life PWM Capacitors" ?

This just means it's using solid polymer capacitors instead regular electrolitic ones. Basically all today's mobos use them (maybe only the cheapest ones don't)...

[enermac]

I am finally stable but I notice that my system seemed more responsive with everything on auto seems like my memory is holding me back.

The best everest will report is the following.

READ 6861 MB/s
Write 8511Mb/s
Copy 8122Mb/s
Latency 80.0 NS

This is with the OC charger to strong.

Running ddr2 patriot viper PC6400

400mhz (8x400 1:1 5:5:5:15)
1.96v

I tried changing the common performance level to 8 but it was a no boot.

Edit...


I realized i needed to chance my Dram frequency.. duhh..

At DDR2-1006mhz 4:5 ratio now..

My numbers are

Read 7647Mb/s
Write 8515MB/s
Copy 8456MB/s
Latency 71.6NS

Oc Charge and Twister are AUTO

Its more responsive now but im not sure how stable it is.. what else can i tweak to get a little less latency.. time to prime blend tonight..

[KoHaN69]

did anyone have sucess with the underclocking @ idle/overclocking @ load?

[ThugsRook]

Oc Charge and Twister are AUTO

Its more responsive now but im not sure how stable it is.. what else can i tweak to get a little less latency.. time to prime blend tonight..

DRAM Read Training: ENABLED
MEM. OC Charger: ENABLED
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL (PL10, then try PL9)

[ThugsRook]

did anyone have sucess with the underclocking @ idle/overclocking @ load?

yes,
C1E enabled does that for you, depending on how far youre overclocked of course. or... you could be stock at idle and overclocked during load, etc.

[ThugsRook]

The 8 pin extra power connector on the board has half of it covered by a plastic cap you can pop off. 4 pins are still exposed. My PSU has an 8 pin EPS connector, and a 4 pin EPS connector. Should I use the 8 pin one and remove the plastic cover over half the socket or should I use my 4 pin connector and only use the exposed 4 pins?

In the manual it says to connect the '8 pin' connector, so I assume I can pop the cap off and plug in my 8 pin EPS cable.

pop the cap, use the 8 pin

[TouGe]

I think I would rather take a formula II then a premium...

For such a small price difference between the two and having temp read-outs and more options in the BIOS I would have to agree. Unfortunately my board was just goofy from the get go and a couple of days later it just up and died w/o warning or explanation so I can't honestly recommend it to someone else.
I'm hoping it was just my bad luck because I had such high hopes for the Formula II given the outstanding performance I'm getting from the P5Q-D.

[PortCitySlim]

Does anyone know how far the motherboard pushes the CPU PLL voltage when set to "auto", it seems that my system is just as stable with the setting on auto at times and was wondering if that is because it is setting this value to a higher limit that is dangerous to my CPU?

[Leeghoofd]

I am finally stable but I notice that my system seemed more responsive with everything on auto seems like my memory is holding me back.

Its more responsive now but im not sure how stable it is.. what else can i tweak to get a little less latency.. time to prime blend tonight..

Biggest latency drop is to be expected when putting Static read control to enabled, then test thoroughly, if all is okay maybe you can put the clock twister at moderate... test again and then try the lowest stable PL level... will be 7-8 ish depending on OC, RAm and co...

If all works out you will get a nice increase, though don't expect miracles...

For such a small price difference between the two and having temp read-outs and more options in the BIOS I would have to agree. Unfortunately my board was just goofy from the get go and a couple of days later it just up and died w/o warning or explanation so I can't honestly recommend it to someone else.

Well if I can sell the dlx I might try out the MF II, did you replace the TIM and modified the NB attachment ? Seems ram wise it's a tad better than the Dlx...

Does anyone know how far the motherboard pushes the CPU PLL voltage when set to "auto", it seems that my system is just as stable with the setting on auto at times and was wondering if that is because it is setting this value to a higher limit that is dangerous to my CPU?

I don't know the exact number but I'm pretty sure it was over 1.75... so pretty lethal for 24/7 use with a 45nm CPU...

[KoHaN69]

I think I would rather take a formula II then a premium...

Which formula II ?? the p45?
ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45

why not get deluxe instead? it's much cheaper than either one of those, but same bios as premium

[PortCitySlim]

I don't know the exact number but I'm pretty sure it was over 1.75... so pretty lethal for 24/7 use with a 45nm CPU...

Wow, 1.75 is bad for 65nm too. I can't believe that a company like ASUS would make a product that when set to it's default setting would kill a CPU or seriously degrade it. For my 65nm Q6700 it is 100% safe to run PLL at anything under 1.60 correct?

[PortCitySlim]

Leeghoofd, I have a good question for you. I have been working hard to get my 3.4ghz(8x425) overclock very very rock stable. I need my system to be more stable then most people because I use very CPU intensive chess engines(basically huge number calculators) so I prefer my system to be 12 hour small FFT stable, 2 hour OCCT Ram test stable and then 18-24 hour prime95 blend stable. For my overclock I have got 1.406vcore/1.58PLL to last 9 hours small fft's before failing, I might get stable by bumping to 1.6PLL but instead I decided to try 1.4125vcore/1.54PLL which is currently running for about 3hours. My question is that if both settings pass 12hours (1.406/1.6 and 1.4125/1.54), which of these would cause the least amount of CPU degradation over a period of 12 months? Does increasing the PLL affect how much wear and tear you are putting on your CPU? Thanks, hope that is not to hard to answer

[TouGe]

Well if I can sell the dlx I might try out the MF II, did you replace the TIM and modified the NB attachment ? Seems ram wise it's a tad better than the Dlx...

I threw my WC setup on the board right away since they both arrived at the same time. The loop was leak checked and after the Formula died I slid my P5Q in w/o breaking my loop and it has been running w/o incedent ever since.

Anyone use loadline calibration? I've heard that on other boards it can lead to instability but what about the P5Q-Dlx?

This board clocks ram really well, I'm stable at 1125MHz at 1.90v set in bios.

I have used LLC on the P5K-D/Maximus Formula/P5Q-D/Formula II/DFI (x38/x48) w/o any stability issues.

[Leeghoofd]

Leeghoofd, I have a good question for you. I have been working hard to get my 3.4ghz(8x425) overclock very very rock stable. I need my system to be more stable then most people because I use very CPU intensive chess engines(basically huge number calculators) so I prefer my system to be 12 hour small FFT stable, 2 hour OCCT Ram test stable and then 18-24 hour prime95 blend stable. For my overclock I have got 1.406vcore/1.58PLL to last 9 hours small fft's before failing, I might get stable by bumping to 1.6PLL but instead I decided to try 1.4125vcore/1.54PLL which is currently running for about 3hours. My question is that if both settings pass 12hours (1.406/1.6 and 1.4125/1.54), which of these would cause the least amount of CPU degradation over a period of 12 months? Does increasing the PLL affect how much wear and tear you are putting on your CPU? Thanks, hope that is not to hard to answer

Since you are running a 65nm quad I don't see any problem in high voltages regarding Vcore nor PLL... but it's an interesting question... Only thing I would look into are ya temps... hows does the Zalman cope with ya CPU ? what voltages does ya CPU require for eg for 200mhz less ? so 8 x 400 ? or even 10 x 333 ? If the cores go over 60°C I would consider a beefier cooler there... could be you need less voltages then for 12 hour stability...

And to be honest, I never run Prime Small over 6 hours or so... then I run an OCCT 2 hour, first CPU then Ram and finally mix in a row... some 3dmarks and finally 4 superpi 32mb runs at the same time... till now no weird erratic behaviour with none of my CPU's...

We are getting obsessed with Prime and Orthos... while it could be heat, PSU, who knows what makes the stress program fail... also some peeps prefer Linpack... but my CPU is never tortured like that in real time , not even when folding 24/7 at 100%...

Best test is daily usage... if you don't have anything erratic while using ya rig and having fun... then it's stable enough for you... for someone else it might cap out on some program or co...

[Pntgrd]

My P5Q-D arrives today and I have a question for you guys that transfered your Raid drives. From reading here I don't think I would want to hook my drives to the "Raid" ports as that would then format them, if I understood correctly. What ports did you hook your existing Raid drives to in order for the existing volumes to be read?

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

My P5Q-D arrives today and I have a question for you guys that transfered your Raid drives. From reading here I don't think I would want to hook my drives to the "Raid" ports as that would then format them, if I understood correctly. What ports did you hook your existing Raid drives to in order for the existing volumes to be read?

Why would connecting a hard drive to a raid port format it if your not setting up RAID?

[NBF]

My P5Q-D arrives today and I have a question for you guys that transfered your Raid drives. From reading here I don't think I would want to hook my drives to the "Raid" ports as that would then format them, if I understood correctly. What ports did you hook your existing Raid drives to in order for the existing volumes to be read?

The Orange/white ports are only for data storage, depending on which setting you have the Xpert drive in BIOS, you may loose data on disks.

I putted my previous RAIDs on the Red ports and set RAID on BIOS, that ones are ICH10R controlled. Previously I had this drives running Vista on ICH9R and they booted with ICH10R, just installed new drivers under Vista to make all work fine.

[Gr1mR34p3r]

Anyone use loadline calibration? I've heard that on other boards it can lead to instability but what about the P5Q-Dlx?

I have a question about LLC also.
With LLC Enabled, my CPU needs 1.3625V for 9x445, 1.360V in CPU-Z under load. But with LLC Disabled my CPU needs 1.39375V, 1.336V under load. I have NB set to 1.12V.
When on P5K PRO with LLC Disabled, it needed 1.375V in BIOS, 1.336V under load (0.04V vdroop, P5Q-D has 0.06V). As I remember LLC didn't help much on this board.
I thought that NB voltage affects LLC, but I guess it doesn't, NB at 1.26V and CPU 1.35V, Orthos Small FFTs works, but Blend doesn't.

I also made some testing with 500 and 534FSB:
8x500 NB 1.14V
-LLC Enabled 1.3625V Blend OK, 1.35V Small OK
-LLC Disabled 1.40V (1.344V load) Small FFTs and Blend OK

7.5x534 NB 1.28V
-LLC Enabled 1.3625V Blend OK
-LLC Disabled, 1.40V Small FFTs, but needed 1.4125V for Blend

So what's with this LLC, and is it better to have more voltage in idle and less in load (LLC Disabled -> 1.33-1.39V), or a voltage somewhere in the middle at all times (LLC Enabled -> 1.36V).

[Ronin777]

I have been having some difficulties with the P5Q Deluxe and over clocking it. I have ran programs like SP2004, Prime95, OCCT, and Memtest84+ and have not been able to find anything unstable. However even a small over clock on my q6600 G0 (2.8 was the lowest I was having instability at) the OS behaves strangely and games will freeze and require a hard reboot. Could I be having difficulties with Vista 64 and stability testing?

[Pntgrd]

The Orange/white ports are only for data storage, depending on which setting you have the Xpert drive in BIOS, you may loose data on disks.

I putted my previous RAIDs on the Red ports and set RAID on BIOS, that ones are ICH10R controlled. Previously I had this drives running Vista on ICH9R and they booted with ICH10R, just installed new drivers under Vista to make all work fine.

Since my post, UPS delivered the board. I see now it wouldn't have been hard to tell which ones to use. I hope I have time tonight to get this installed

[TI66ER]

Can anyone tell me what occt crash code 4 means please?

I just cannot get my machine to stop bsoding at random,my memory is crucial pc8500 tracers which are on my boards qvl.I used to run my chip in my p5k-prem at 3.6ghz/1.41vcore 24/7 with no problems.

Could it be my raid setup that is causing random bsods? mebbe this board has a problem with certain discs like the p5k-prem? they are samsung sp2504c's.

I am at my wits end

[ThugsRook]

Can anyone tell me what occt crash code 4 means please?

I just cannot get my machine to stop bsoding at random,my memory is crucial pc8500 tracers which are on my boards qvl.I used to run my chip in my p5k-prem at 3.6ghz/1.41vcore 24/7 with no problems.

Could it be my raid setup that is causing random bsods? mebbe this board has a problem with certain discs like the p5k-prem? they are samsung sp2504c's.

I am at my wits end

crash code 4 doesnt mean anything other then it errored.
but giving an error is better then locking up or BSOD, so you are close.

[TI66ER]

I just upped my vcore to 1.425v and it passed for 13mins with no error,i had it on custom 1H/ram.I will see if i still get random bsods now.

EDIT-well it did it again.Is it possible it could be something to do with media center? it seems to bsod more when that is running.

Help me!!