ThermoChill PA120.4 Radiator

**MordantsNeed** · 06-09-2009, 09:46 AM

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet but chilledpc will have them in stock from the 17th June, (15mm fan spacing as well).

**liguhy** · 06-09-2009, 10:15 AM

Here's a pic and link:
PA 120.4
Hmm, 75 pounds sterling converts to about 122 USD. I assume this will be as thick as other Thermochill PA rads? For us US (

) users, XSPC RX series seems to do just as well, or you could pay the extra bling price and get a Feser I suppose.

**kinghong1970** · 06-09-2009, 10:18 AM

um... 120.4 meaning it is 120mm fans x4.. right?
i think the pic is just a plain ol 120.3...

**prosser13** · 06-09-2009, 10:18 AM

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/cata...x.php?cPath=37

Keep an eye on there - TC is now part owned by the same guy who owns WCUK so there's a chance they might have lower prices

**liguhy** · 06-09-2009, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by kinghong1970

um... 120.4 meaning it is 120mm fans x4.. right?
i think the pic is just a plain ol 120.3...

Oh, so it is. I just copied and pasted the product picture without really looking. Link's good, but they have the wrong picture...tsk tsk

**Martinm210** · 06-09-2009, 12:00 PM

Very nice, do I see the larger fan spacing..

or is that changing to 15mm?

**Mankz_91** · 06-09-2009, 12:09 PM

It says 15mm on the website.

**Petra** · 06-09-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Martinm210

Very nice, do I see the larger fan spacing..

or is that changing to 15mm?

Originally Posted by Mankz_91

It says 15mm on the website.

New Thermochills = 15mm fan spacing, no bleed screw, and no gasket.

**welshtom** · 06-09-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by prosser13

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/cata...x.php?cPath=37

Keep an eye on there - TC is now part owned by the same guy who owns WCUK so there's a chance they might have lower prices

I should hope not, not unless he wants to annoy every reseller in the country.

They set the RRP's they will stick to them

As stated in product description, pics to follow.
We've been confirmed stock from TC so just waiting for them now and we can get them in the photo tent and get some photos of all the new 15mm spacings and quad rad up asap

**WaterFlex** · 06-09-2009, 01:33 PM

Tc Is Back !

**Brad8988** · 06-09-2009, 03:01 PM

Hi welshman.

**quattro_** · 06-09-2009, 03:20 PM

i bet it will not outperform the good old pa120.3 .

**Fragger** · 06-09-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by quattro_

i bet it will not outperform the good old pa120.3 .

Ill take that bet and youre money...........

**Brodholm** · 06-09-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by quattro_

i bet it will not outperform the good old pa120.3 .

Ill bet it will perform about the same as the RX480. Is there any other things done to the design besides the 15mm spacing?

I think someone said that it is the extra area on the PA120.3 that makes it better than most 120.3 rads. Because of the larger fan spacing?

**DeathWalking** · 06-09-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Brodholm

Ill bet it will perform about the same as the RX480. Is there any other things done to the design besides the 15mm spacing?

I think someone said that it is the extra area on the PA120.3 that makes it better than most 120.3 rads. Because of the larger fan spacing?

Probably not, considering the fan area is the same as on the other fans...there's just a little more space in between the fans. I dunno, though, could be. I suspect it's good 'ol fashioned engineering prowess, though.

**CyberDruid** · 06-09-2009, 08:09 PM

That's some great news. Pricing seems pretty decent too.

**faster3200** · 06-09-2009, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Brodholm

I think someone said that it is the extra area on the PA120.3 that makes it better than most 120.3 rads. Because of the larger fan spacing?

I HIGHLY doubt that.

19mm-15mm=2mm 2mm*2=4mm
4mm*120mm= 480mm^2=0.744in^2
0.744in^2 x 8fpi= ~6 fins

I highly doubt 6 extra fins/<1 sq.in. will make a big difference. If you compare it to other rads you will notice it performs similarly, so nothing special about it imo.

That said new TC stuff should be interesting. I am curious how much it will turn out like XSPC stuff and how much will stay the same.

**Brodholm** · 06-10-2009, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by faster3200

I HIGHLY doubt that.

19mm-15mm=2mm 2mm*2=4mm
4mm*120mm= 480mm^2=0.744in^2
0.744in^2 x 8fpi= ~6 fins

I highly doubt 6 extra fins/<1 sq.in. will make a big difference. If you compare it to other rads you will notice it performs similarly, so nothing special about it imo.

That said new TC stuff should be interesting. I am curious how much it will turn out like XSPC stuff and how much will stay the same.

Guess I remembered wrong then

Thanks for clearing that up.

**ecat** · 06-10-2009, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Brodholm

I think someone said that it is the extra area on the PA120.3 that makes it better than most 120.3 rads. Because of the larger fan spacing?

I remember reading that, iirc it was either Marci or Martin.

**quattro_** · 06-10-2009, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by Fragger

Ill take that bet and youre money...........

you serious? 10$

**SNiiPE_DoGG** · 06-10-2009, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by faster3200

I HIGHLY doubt that.

19mm-15mm=2mm 2mm*2=4mm
4mm*120mm= 480mm^2=0.744in^2
0.744in^2 x 8fpi= ~6 fins

I highly doubt 6 extra fins/<1 sq.in. will make a big difference. If you compare it to other rads you will notice it performs similarly, so nothing special about it imo.

That said new TC stuff should be interesting. I am curious how much it will turn out like XSPC stuff and how much will stay the same.

TC was 24.5mm but regardless, I dont think extra area between the fans does a whole lot. We may be underestimating it though because a large portion of the air going through most 120mm fans ends up at the very edge of the radius.

**HESmelaugh** · 06-10-2009, 04:21 AM

We need to do a blind test on this:
Person 1 runs tests on both new and old TCs (with larger and smaller fan-spaces), never looks at the temps and just sends all the raw data-logs to Person 2. Person 2 does the number-crunching and if he can confidently say which set of data belongs to which radiator, there's a difference.

This would need to be done with several sets of testers, to even out chance differences measured.

**Mech0z** · 06-10-2009, 04:33 AM

Isnt it sort of like having a triple rad vs a quad rad but running 3 fans on both, the quad rad will do better, but not by much with now flow through it.

**The[R]eaper** · 06-10-2009, 08:53 AM

Great news! may have to get one of these for my TJ07's basement

any idea when they're hittin' the states?

**Waterlogged** · 06-10-2009, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by faster3200

I HIGHLY doubt that.

19mm-15mm=2mm 2mm*2=4mm
4mm*120mm= 480mm^2=0.744in^2
0.744in^2 x 8fpi= ~6 fins

I highly doubt 6 extra fins/<1 sq.in. will make a big difference. If you compare it to other rads you will notice it performs similarly, so nothing special about it imo.

That said new TC stuff should be interesting. I am curious how much it will turn out like XSPC stuff and how much will stay the same.

Wouldn't this need to be cubed to account for the thickness of the rad which is also cooling the water?

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