K8 vs K10 on 790FX - Results

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Firstly. Big appologies for the differences in RAM timings between the Windsor and Agena in the following.

Due to problems with this board I could not run CAS4 on the K8 on this bios at least. Also I should have by rights used a 10x multi to keep RAM frequency the same.

Instead though I've clocked the K8 20Mhz faster in an attempt to keep things as even as possible. In the end though the aim of the exersize was find areas were K10 majorly outperforms K8 not nitpick at anything less than 2%. Anyone who's spent time with Phenom on the current BIOS will no what a pain the arse it really is atm to run overclocked. Hence someitmes it's just too hard to get things exactly how you want them. I will keep at it and RERUN THE BENCHMARKS with identical settings.

Now, the focus here is on 1-2 threaded Apps only, with the aim of giving people a better idea whether an X4 is for them at the current clocks and rev's, especially those with current X2s I

THIS IS NOT AN INTEL VS AMD THREAD. Especially given it's single-dual thread nature, where we allready are pefectly aware K10 does not have the IPC of Core for MOST desktop app's (but not all, I will say that) Trolls, please See the troll thread, not this one. That goes for anyone

Also if someone with a good brain can have a check over my % calcs, we all make mistakes.




Apart from the minor RAM timing differences, all tests are on the same machine, same install. All run on the Phenom first. Some repeated at the end to ensure no degredation of the OS had occured during the install of some programs.

Some I sitll have to do for K8 Include Superprime and the new release Wprime. stay tuned for that.

Setup:

Mainboard: Gigabyte MA-790FX-DQ6 Bios F2H
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 1066
Phenom: 4-4-4-12 487Mhz
Athlon: 5-4-4-12 440Mhz
Video: Gecube HD3850 256mb @ 750/1000

CPUs:

K8 Windsor 1Mbx2 L2 @ 2695Mhz
K10 Agena @ 2680Mhz

OS
Windows XP32 SP2 +crit updates


On with the results...


Super Pi 1M




Phenom: 27.687s
Athlon:30.328s
K10 +9.5%

*Note, Winrar bench not run single threaded- discard. Will rerun along with others

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Nuclearus MC:



Phenom:
ALU: 4973
FPU: 5116

Athlon:
ALU: 4356
FPU: 5067

ALU K10 +14%
FPU K10 +0-1%

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Lightmark 2007



Phenom: 269.3
Athlon: 233.7

K10 +15%

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LAME 3.7 MP3 192Kbs - Standard Compiler




Phenom: 2:06
Athlon: 2:27

K10 +16%

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LAME 3.7 MP3 192Kbs - Intel Compiler



Phenom: 1:42
Athlon: 2:01

K10 +18%

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FLAC CDex 1.70



Phenom: 4:17
Athlon: 5:00

K10 +16-17%

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CineBench R10 32bit


Single Thread:
Phenom:2372
Athlon:2314

K10 + 2.5%

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3Dmark 06:



Phenom:
SM2.0: 4309
SM3.0: 4780

Athlon:
SM2.0: 4142
SM3.0: 4578

SM2 K10 +4%
SM3 K10 +4%


*important to note this Test is not overly CPU bottlenecked. more interest factor


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Aquamark 3



Phenom:
GFX: 22566
CPU: 13422

Athlon
GFX: 19980
CPU: 12971

GFX: K10 +13%
CPU: K10 +3.4%
Overall score K10 +8%


TO BE CONTINUED..

STILL TO COME

*Video Encoding

*Archving

*SSE heavy Stuff

HOPEFULLY some real games if I can get some help on DEMO's I can use, as I don't have much unfortunatly


*** - UPDATED: 7dec 07 ***


Notes:

RAM timings vary a bit on these ones, I had initially got them both running at CAS4 finally, but then during a CPU swap I've managed to end up with Phenom on Cas 5 for some of these tests, Frequencies now identical though. So Phenom slightly disadvantaged this time around. Again though we're talking a percent at the most. K10 especially much less affected by the odd timing difference.

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x264 Benchmark



Phenom:
PASS1:89.00
PASS2:17.58

[106.58]

Athlon:
PASS1:75.13
PASS2:17.97

[93.1]


K10 +14.4% overall

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Systool



Phenom: 263sec
Athlon: 237sec

K10 + 10.9%



notes: CAS4 on K8

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]Wprime 1.55



Phenom: 29.562
Athlon: 32.14

K10 +10.3%

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POV-RAY 3.7 single thread



Phenom: 394.8
Athlon: 370.5

K10 +6.55%

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ScienceMark



Phenom: 1687
Athlon: 1512

K10 +11.6%

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***Lightman's Results****


Lightman has also kindly let me merge his results from the thread into this post, Enjoy:



I did some tests for you guys simulating Phenom X2 2200MHz with DDR-800 4-4-4:


CPU Queen 4395 vs 4262 of X2 4200+ 2.2GHz


CPU PhotoWorxx 26375 vs 17902 of X2 4200+ 2.2GHz


CPU ZLib 29487KB/s vs 26238KB/s of X2 4200+ 2.2GHz


FPU Julia 4660 vs 3742 of X2 4200+ 2.2GHz


FPU Mandel 2308 vs 2114 of X2 4200+ 2.2GHz


FPU SinJulia 5671 vs 5872 of X2 4200+ 2.2GHz


Cinebench 2003 x64 + SuperPi




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