Quote Originally Posted by EnJoY View Post
It makes you wonder what AMD was doing that whole time while they were "developing Barcelona"... It seems Intel achieve more in going from Conroe to Penryn than AMD has going from Windsor to Barcelona. This is what AMD brought to the next-gen fight?
here we go again.........

not that difficult to increase that much performance after so many years of netburst crap and from con to pen its just the apps that benefit from additional cache and were already constrained in conroe on fsb. (and the sse4 offcourse)


for the k10 part
k10 first original design was killed because the market was not ready for it.

second k10 design (this one) has some advanced memory control, shared cache and native but for the rest the overestimated the increased performance by that i think. if l3 would be as fast as and as big as intel cache you would see a much better int performance, lets see what shangai brings.

and it was late to the market because they had to delay 65nm because of first soi issues (long time ago, yields ) and native design.

maJORD thx for the info, but aren't you the first to report k8 issues on the 790fx chipset? or did i miss some posts...... i know there were phenom bios issues.