AMD "Piledriver" refresh of Zambezi - info, speculations, test, fans

[-Boris-]

Seriously, I have no idea why people are still crying about Bulldozer. Sure it's not the fastest chip,but at least it is overall faster than Thuban(sometimes a lot ,sometimes it's even slower). The good thing is that even in this worst case scenario when both design and process have some issues,it's quite a decent product. It just needs a price correction to be a bit more competitive from price/perf. POV.
Piledriver will improve on Bulldozer,Steamroller on Piledriver etc. The curve goes to the right direction so I don't know why some people are so pessimistic... If anyone thinks that AMD could have rode K10 on sub 32nm with 4+GHz clocks and 8+ cores with no changes to the uarchitecture itself is delusional.

Because we are not too fond of turd polishing! It’s a botched architecture, you can’t just give it 50%+ higher IPC in the near future, and you can’t expect clocks to fix this when they already is near the roof here. SB is capable of the same frequencies and is so on much lower power usage and with much higher IPC, despite half the core count! Intel has more than twice the performance per mm² at much lower power usage, you can’t simply fix that with a few revisions. Phenom II has higher performance per watt, twice(!) the performance per mm² (taking processes in to account) and higher IPC and is capable of almost the same- if not the same or higher - frequencies on the same process.

The architecture is seriously broken, much more so than P4 ever was! And at the same time AMD has put so much pride and marketing in this that they can’t go back, they’re stuck with this mess for years!


Ask yourself, when do you think this mess i solved? You can sell products with subpar performance given they are cheaper and/or cooler. That's what AMD did in the past when they was behind, with the Phenoms, Athlon X2, K6 and K5. Bulldozer can't even do that!
Me being an AMD "fanboy" since K6 is now planning for Ivy Bridge to replace my Phenom II, the main reason I didn't like intel in the past was that they made inefficient processors with high frequency and power usage without the performance how do you thin BD or PD will stick up to IB in those areas?